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About Sarah Palin: an e-mail from Wasilla

A suburban Anchorage homemaker and activist — who once did battle with the Alaska governor when Palin was mayor — recounts what she knows of Palin's history.
The Wasilla, Alaska, City Hall in 2005. (Wikipedia Commons)

The Wasilla, Alaska, City Hall in 2005. (Wikipedia Commons) None


Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska.

Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska. None

Editor's note: The writer is a homemaker and education advocate in Wasilla, Alaska. Late last week, Anne Kilkenny penned an e-mail for her friends about vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin, whom she personally knows, that has since circulated across comment forums and blogs nationwide. Here is her e-mail in its entirety, posted with her permission.


I am a resident of Wasilla, Alaska. I have known Gov. Sarah Palin since 1992. Everyone here knows Sarah, so it is nothing special to say we are on a first-name basis. Our children have attended the same schools. Her father was my child's favorite substitute teacher. I also am on a first-name basis with her parents and mother-in-law. I attended more City Council meetings during her administration than about 99 percent of the residents of the city.

She is enormously popular; in every way she's like the most popular girl in middle school. Even men who think she is a poor choice for vice president and won't vote for her can't quit smiling when talking about her because she is a "babe."

It is astonishing and almost scary how well she can keep a secret. She kept her most recent pregnancy a secret from her children and parents for seven months.

She is "pro-life." She recently gave birth to a Down's syndrome baby. There is no cover-up involved here; Trig is her baby.

She is energetic and hardworking. She regularly worked out at the gym.

She is savvy. She doesn't take positions; she just "puts things out there" and if they prove to be popular, then she takes credit.

Her husband works a union job on the North Slope for BP and is a champion snowmobile racer. Todd Palin's kind of job is highly sought-after because of the schedule and high pay. He arranges his work schedule so he can fish for salmon in Bristol Bay for a month or so in summer, but by no stretch of the imagination is fishing their major source of income. Nor has her lifestyle ever been anything like that of native Alaskans.

Sarah and her whole family are avid hunters.

She's smart.

Her experience is as mayor of a city with a population of about 5,000 (at the time) and less than two years as governor of a state with about 670,000 residents.

During her mayoral administration, most of the actual work of running this small city was turned over to an administrator. She had been pushed to hire this administrator by party power-brokers after she had gotten herself into some trouble over precipitous firings, which had given rise to a recall campaign.

Sarah campaigned in Wasilla as a "fiscal conservative." During her six years as mayor, she increased general government expenditures by more than 33 percent. During those same six years, the amount of taxes collected by the city increased by 38 percent. This was during a period of low inflation (1996-2002). She reduced progressive property taxes and increased a regressive sales tax, which taxed even food. The tax cuts that she promoted benefitted large corporate property owners way more than they benefited residents.

The huge increases in tax revenue during her mayoral administration weren't enough to fund everything on her wish list, though — borrowed money was needed, too. She inherited a city with zero debt but left it with indebtedness of more than $22 million. What did Mayor Palin encourage the voters to borrow money for? Was it the infrastructure that she said she supported? The sewage treatment plant that the city lacked? Or a new library? No. $1 million for a park. $15 million-plus for construction of a multi-use sports complex, which she rushed through, on a piece of property that the city didn't even have clear title to. That was still in litigation seven years later — to the delight of the lawyers involved! The sports complex itself is a nice addition to the community but a huge money pit, not the profit-generator she claimed it would be. She also supported bonds for $5.5 million for road projects that could have been done in five to seven years without any borrowing.


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Comments:

Posted Tue, Sep 2, 4:04 p.m. Inappropriate

Forward this to everyone you know: The media will focus on the fluff, people need to know the meat. Forward this to everyone you know and let them make their own decision.

Posted Tue, Sep 2, 6:28 p.m. Inappropriate

Ambition feeds the rumors: Here is a link to the story of little Trig's birth, from KTUU, the same TV station where Sarah worked once as a sportscaster:
http://www.ktuu.com/global/story.asp?s=8194634

What kind of ambition is that? Sarah says she was at an oil conference in Texas (with Cheney's inner circle) and they offered her a chance at the vice presidency. She says her water broke, but she gave her speech anyway, and then flew all night, back to Alaska (8 hours) in premature labor with a Down syndrome baby, and then drove to a distant medical center (2 hours).
The baby was born at 6:30 AM. She claims her doctor approved the flight. People didn't believe her, and neither do I: no physician ever did any such thing, of course. So either she lied or she lied, and either way she looks nuts.

If she really delivered the baby, all she has to do is show people her hospital records and introduce them to the doctor. She doesn't have to hide behind her daughter.

I am not convinced of any of the dates she gives. She acts like a pathological liar. Right now, her need is to cover for her own bizarre behavior, whether it was concealing her Bristols's pregnancy (or pregnancies) or her own. I have not seen "liberals" attacking Bristol Palin: Sarah launched the issue and is using it to present herself as a defender of her daughter, attacked by phantom Democrats.
mport84

Posted Tue, Sep 2, 9:25 p.m. Inappropriate

She's a clone of Washington State's/King County's/Seattle's government leaders: So Palin has a non-progressive tax agenda. And she signs off on huge piles of new debt. She jams through sales tax increases.

She's being advised by the same municipal financing consultants and lawyers the local and state politicians running the show around here get their advice from. OK, that's just a guess.

Chopp, Gregoire, Nickels, Phillips, Constantine, the Murrays, et. al, et. seq. - that's EXACTLY how Washington's political leadership behaves.

Posted Tue, Sep 2, 10:09 p.m. Inappropriate

Any comparable perspectives on Sen Obama?: I am curious, are there any first-hand perspectives from people who worked with Sen Obama or who were his neighbors? Perhaps some people who benefited from his community organizing, or from his constituent service while he was in the Illinois legislature?

I think the NY TImes had something about his law school teaching, and the Houston Free Press had the perspective of a reporter who covered Sen Obama while he was in the legislature.

The email from Alaska is indeed illuminating. There are plenty of points of view on anyone though.
sjenner

Posted Tue, Sep 2, 10:09 p.m. Inappropriate

Slimecut: A an admittedly biased smear job. Don't lose your reputation over this, Crosscut!

dman

Posted Tue, Sep 2, 10:26 p.m. Inappropriate

the email may be fake!: if you want another but more fair report:

www.nytimes.com/2008/09/03/us/politics/03wasilla.html?em

Keep in mind people are trying to cut her off at the knees!
dman

Posted Tue, Sep 2, 11:30 p.m. Inappropriate

Librarians Against Palin: I am writing a blog where Library Staff and Library Lovers can unite against Sarah Palin. Sarah Palin is a censor, and she believes that she knows better than you what you can read.

Please join me at http://librariansagainstpalin.wordpress.com

Posted Wed, Sep 3, 1:23 a.m. Inappropriate

RE: Librarians Against Palin: Funny: when I first read your comment, I thought it said "library staff and liberty lovers." But it might as well have. Sarah Palin is definitely not from the libertarian wing of the Republican Party. I can't imagine they're thrilled with McCain's pick. How many will go big-L and vote for Barr this fall, I wonder?

Posted Wed, Sep 3, 7:35 a.m. Inappropriate

RE: Slimecut: This piece was neither. A smear job is a lie told cynically in order to manipulate the gullible. If the writer of this email is lying, please show us how. And as for bias--are you suggesting that the writer wants to hate Palin because of Palin's race or gender or religion or political party--wants to hate her so badly that she makes stuff up or ignores facts just to justify hating her? It doesn't read that way to me. I think she's critical of Palin based on a lot of experience and observation, not biased against her.

Posted Wed, Sep 3, 9:41 a.m. Inappropriate

RE: Librarians Against Palin: Here's one that's leaning that way, but not because of Palin. McCain lost me with McCain-Feingold. He obviously has no qualms about brushing the First Amendment out of his way when it suits him. Obama might get my vote if he follows Nixon's age-old maxim and moves to the center to govern (and to win the election). As it is, exchanging big-government Bush for big-government Obama isn't change, it's just re-arranging the deck chairs.

dbreneman

Posted Wed, Sep 3, 11:04 a.m. Inappropriate

thank you for speaking out: I have been trying to find out about her - the press has been so focused on gossip including the religion angle- they still have not learned we the people want substance in reporting. I still have no idea about her beliefs on foreign policy issues, commitment to energy independence( you can debate global warming, but not the fact that our national security and economy are linked to energy independence issues- Oil drilling in Alaska or not will not accomplish energy independence- what is her big picture?)

Look at the Soviet Union- its all about oil- they have it, Europe does not- they are feeling their power- power today is energy- not military strength- currently you can stop an army or country if they have no fuel.

We need broad flexible thinking in our President with an eye to the long term - not just their personal party future.

I finally found someone posting details that can be researched and verified. Thank you - we only preserve freedom by using our freedom to vote wisely.

-an avid Obama supporter, from the middle, who was thinking she might have potential in the future if she chose to gain experience- but now I am not too sure- she is too risky in a time McCain is statistically unlikely to live to 80 as a male in the US.
CB

Posted Wed, Sep 3, 11:32 a.m. Inappropriate

Truth more damaging: The Writer's claims of Palin's vindictiveness seems to be corroborated by today's NYT article about Palin's roots. ("Palin's Start in Alaska: Not Politics As Usual.") Many of the residents of Wasilla that the writer of that piece talked to refused to comment. On reading that piece I wondered if they were afraid of retribution. On reading this piece, that feels like a justified reaction.

Her governing style seems to prove that one book she would (did?) read is the Karl Rove Handbook of Wedge Politics.

(OK, is it just me, or does Palin remind you of Christy Alley's character in the movie Drop Dead Gorgeous–the ex-beauty queen now beauty queen mother that kills all of her daughters competitors?)

Do we really want someone who worked at banning books in position to be President? I'm sure there are some who do, but for those of us who think Democracy requires freedom of information this seems a bit extreme.

Posted Wed, Sep 3, 7:25 p.m. Inappropriate

Palin????: When I watched Sarah Palin with her family behind her, I laughed so hard at her poor daughter. I thought that she was just another normal teenager embarressed by her parents.I wondered why she was holding the baby in such an unusual position. Now, I figure she was hiding When I found out she was pregnant, it wasn't funny. I felt so bad for her. I thought How I would feel if I were 17 and found myself pregnent. I would be so embarressed when my family and freinds found out. Her mother has put her out there for the whole world to see. Is this what she (Ms Palin)calls "family values"? Bless her daughter's heart. Shame on you Ms. Palin.

Posted Wed, Sep 3, 8:10 p.m. Inappropriate

Thank you so much, Mrs. Kilkenny: Mrs. Kilkenny, what you are doing here is nothing less than the solemn duty of every patriotic citizen of this nation: you are speaking what you know to be true based on the facts of the matter, and you have pulled no punches. This is what allows our country to function. Thank you so, so very much. People need to follow your example (and your grammar!) whenever they wish to say something useful. You have stated your points clearly, with no particular venom or invective to distract from the sobriety of the facts, and you have provided a method for checking where your numbers and facts derive from. This is more than many self-styled "journalists" do these days, and I applaud you for this.

Thank you,
James Tyler
Duncanville, TX

Posted Wed, Sep 3, 11:26 p.m. Inappropriate

Thank you!: Thank You Anne Kilkenny! Thank you for not being silent! Thank you for coming out and letting us know your views! Thank you for putting the country first!

vb

Posted Thu, Sep 4, 7 a.m. Inappropriate

RE: Truth more damaging: JUST CURIOUS, DOE'S ANYONE KNOW WHAT BOOK SHE WANTED OUT OF THE PUBLIC LIBRARY ?

Posted Thu, Sep 4, 7:04 a.m. Inappropriate

RE: Palin????: Not sure I understand your comment about Mrs. Palin putting her daughter out there for the whole world to see. Her mother didn't get her prego. A 17 yr old get's pregnant it is there fault, not the parents. As a parent myself I can only point and guide my children in the right direction. What they choose to do away from there home behind closed door's is there choice.

Posted Thu, Sep 4, 7:19 a.m. Inappropriate

RE: Any comparable perspectives on Sen Obama?: Sure...the Chicago Reader is a free newspaper...

http://www.chicagoreader.com/obama/

They have a list of old Obama articles that say a lot about him.

Posted Thu, Sep 4, 7:25 a.m. Inappropriate

A Political Agenda Poorly Disguised: I'm not a political person by nature. But this "letter" allegedly from an activist housewife in Alaska doesn't pass the smell test. It reads more like an agenda...

SHAME ON THE CROSSCUT EDITORIAL STAFF for not performing your journalistic due diligence and contributing to the widespread posting of this urban myth across the Internet. Do you not have to check your sources? Must be easier than working at a network or print publication where editors require such things as veracity in their content.

I'm neither Republican nor Democrat, so I'm weighing the evidence before choosing. I can tell a snow job when I see it.

This letter is likely a subversive political attempt by the Obama/Biden campaign (or advocates thereof) to pass off an attack against an opponent as a first-hand report from an average citizen. If so, then it counts against them in my consideration.

I'm sure the team that cooked up and composed this letter patted themselves on the back so much that they almost dislocated their shoulders. Ultimately, this kind of thinly veiled fictionalized journalism is insulting to your readers and the voting public.

It shows a disregard for our intelligence and an elitism of those writing (and publishing) it for thinking they could pass this rhetoric off as fact.

Shame on them and shame on you, Crosscut.

Now go get a real job and make me a tall caramel macchiato.

Posted Thu, Sep 4, 7:51 a.m. Inappropriate

RE: A Political Agenda Poorly Disguised: Give Ms. Kilkenny a call. She's listed on Whitepages.com. See if it's a "subversive political attempt" or a person expressing her opinion.

Posted Thu, Sep 4, 8:03 a.m. Inappropriate

Let's see--who gored your ox?: I have to agree with Independent1--this one doesn't pass the smell test (shame on the rest of you posters for accepting it at face value!). I have heard from multiple Alaskans--Republicans, Democrats, Independents, liberals, conservatives, apoliticals--and to a person, they tell a consistent story of Sarah Palin. Except Ms. Kilkenny. Her enemies don't like her, but they (now) respect here. As one noted: the Alaskan landscape is littered with the remains of people who've underestimated Sarah Palin.

If this "exposé" were based in truth, don't you think we'd be hearing from more than one individual? You just can't keep secrets from the media in this day and age (and if you think hundreds of TV, cable, print and radio news organizations don't have researchers scouring Alaska for this kind of dirt, you haven't been paying attention).

So, again, I ask you, Ms. Kilkenny: it's obvious Sarah Palin gored your ox--tell us the rest of the story. What really inspired this vindictive diatribe that doesn't jibe with the experience of the rest of Alaska?
aceroinix

Posted Thu, Sep 4, 8:24 a.m. Inappropriate

Alaska visit: I have to disagree with aceroinix. I was just in Alaska last week when Ms. Palin was selected. I spoke with twelve old, dear, respected friends, and they all had similar viewpoints. They all thought that she did a great job initially, particularly against the good ol' boys, but her true colors eventually showed through. They all urged me to tell everyone I know to not trust Ms. Palin and look past her flash.

hibern8

Posted Thu, Sep 4, 8:42 a.m. Inappropriate

Doesn't add up: Something doesn't add up. This email from Anne Kilkenny contradicts itself, almost always a sign of inaccurate information. And it's convenient the numbers can't be verified, another classic excuse to just accept what was stated. What isn't stated is what Sarah did to you Anne. There's always two sides to a story. We have yours, we don't have hers. This smacks of cattiness, not much more. Contradictions and unverifiable facts mark this as unreliable.

rsmout

Posted Thu, Sep 4, 9:33 a.m. Inappropriate

Thanks so much!: Thanks so much for this article. I came across it through a post on The Stranger; I myself am from Chicago, and have forwarded this article to tons of friends + family.

We have desperately needed facts about Palin, because all we've seen since her nomination has been smoke-and-mirrors: Vote for me because I'm a good person because I did not abort my Down's syndrome baby! Vote for me because I am making my 17-year old marry her boyfriend who impregnated her and that makes their teenage sex OK! Vote for me because I am a hockey mom!

Empty, empty rhetoric that does NOT have any place or meaning as regards being a heartbeat away from the Presidency. And especially after her speech last night, she is "full of sound and fury / Signifying nothing."

Her policies and actions whilst being a mayor and governor show just how she would govern as a VP. Blind, ruthless ambition based on fear, ignorance, and misinformation.
jj

Posted Thu, Sep 4, 9:43 a.m. Inappropriate

Classic Disinformation: I got this email. Unfortunately for the "author" it was in a Word format. Cluelessly, the writer forgot that one can click on "properties" and ascertain who created the document, or, at least, who owns or owned the software. When one does this the name "Caroline Cochener" comes up along with "JAC Development". Google these terms and you'll see who's behind this screed. Crosscut is showing its bias as usual.

bob23

Posted Thu, Sep 4, 10:17 a.m. Inappropriate

RE: Palin????: Ranger Dave, nobody should argue with your thought that Palin's daughter has to shoulder responsibility. And fortunately the Palin family is there to support her. However, gogogranny appropriately points out that the girl didn't need to have her personal life highlighted in front of 300 million people IF Palin had turned McCain's offer down. An argument can be made that she put her political ambitions before her family's well-being, unless of course the Palins are all good with the public exposure. Me, I would have passed for the good of my daughter, because both of my girls are that important to me. But, as with most personal decisions, we really don't know what the deal is within the Palin family on this. Let's take Sen. Obama's sage advice on this one--it's their life, involves her daughter, and doesn't have a place in the election. If a reader doesn't like Palin's politics, take her on politically.

gym

Posted Thu, Sep 4, 10:36 a.m. Inappropriate

We need more than a change Osama! Ooops, I mean, Obama: Well anytime some lil thing comes out about the candidates it's always funny to see the things the media nit-pick at. I'm sorry, but for someone who is to be writing almost a critique of a presidential candidate, this seems pretty one sided because it's basically a story of a "person scorned", I mean the author openly admits that some of their facts are wrong and they also openly admit that they can't back up their accounts of the true numbers not to mention that the author is an "enemy", shall I say, of Mrs. Palin. I'm sorry, how about a new rule mmmk? How about accept the fact that basically all the candidates, republican and democrat, all have their own skeletons in their closets and blowing things out of proportion. But when you ultimately look at the candidates side by side it becomes obvious that the stronger ticket is the McCain/Palin ticket. I'm tired of this "I'm ready for a change" "It's time for a change"...what is Mr. Obama goin to change? The color of the office? And I say that with no prejudice but open facts. He, as a senator, passed absolutely nothing...nada, it's like he was just chillin', so to speak, to build up his resume' of doing nothing in office. I mean honestly, when did selection of who is best come down to race/religion/gender? I have friends that have openly admitted that they are only voting for Barack Hussein Obama, because he's black...wow, come on people, pull your heads out of your rear and look at the facts. I guess that's it for now.
Thanks
Bking84

Posted Thu, Sep 4, 12:05 p.m. Inappropriate

Cheney and the offer to become Vice President.: The blogs told a different story that she was offered it in January 2008, and he 'coached' her. Do you have any information regarding Cheney's involvement?

whitehawk

Posted Thu, Sep 4, 12:17 p.m. Inappropriate

RE: Truth more damaging: Im guessing Harry Potter lol. She looks like the Laura Mallory type

Posted Thu, Sep 4, 12:23 p.m. Inappropriate

You can fool some of the people...: To Alaska Visit:
Not sure where you were in Alaska, but sounds like you were in the Southeast. They don't like her much there because she's talked about moving the state capitol from Juneau to Anchorage. For a read on how they feel about her back home in Wasilla (which is, after all, where Ms. Kilkenny alleges the "sins" occurred), check out this AP video from this morning:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf-y6luFRw8

Like I said before, if there were the massive discontent you or Ms. Kilkenny allege, the media would have found it by now. As Abraham Lincoln noted: "You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time."
aceroinix

Posted Thu, Sep 4, 12:34 p.m. Inappropriate

Jealousy: Sounds like the woman is jealous of Palin. Obviously disgruntled about something.

hdlinda

Posted Thu, Sep 4, 1:37 p.m. Inappropriate

RE: We need more than a change Osama! Ooops, I mean, Obama: We need more than a change Osama! Ooops, I mean, Obama

I think we can effectively disregard anything you say, and miss not an iota of fact or meaning.
RobC

Posted Thu, Sep 4, 1:48 p.m. Inappropriate

RE: A Political Agenda Poorly Disguised: I talked to Anne Kilkenny for 45 minutes and the phone, and we did a background check. She's for real.

Posted Thu, Sep 4, 1:52 p.m. Inappropriate

Yes - RE: Any comparable perspectives on Sen Obama?: There's a blog by a guy who used to work with him at Business International, and several other co-workers find it and they've formed a group since at Linkedin, but most describe him as a remote kind of guy. And, of course, one can't know which among them are even real.

http://tinyurl.com/obama-bus-Int
Anie

Posted Thu, Sep 4, 1:55 p.m. Inappropriate

About Anne Kilkenny's e-mail: Some commenters have questioned the authenticity of this article, so here's what we know:

-- We received it in e-mail form.

-- We did a background check on Anne Kilkenny.

-- I talked to her on the phone for 45 minutes.

-- The Anchorage Daily News also looked into the matter and interviewed her.

She's for real, and so is her e-mail. Is everything provably true? No, but she also tells you so in a fairly detailed disclosure at the end of the article.

Posted Thu, Sep 4, 1:55 p.m. Inappropriate

Updates for political history: I'd posted the note a couple of days ago when I found it in the middle of lots of Comments on a monthly but didn't want to link people to try to find it so gave it a single page also.

I've been updating it when I find political histories for Palin that came out after the letter. Some are interesting and there's a good reference site for her stands (with quotes by her).

http://www.andrys.com/palin-kilkenny.html
Anie

Posted Thu, Sep 4, 2:38 p.m. Inappropriate

RE: About Anne Kilkenny's e-mail: The point isn't that Anne Kilkenny is real, it's that the whole smear is a put up and unlikely written by her. Find out who Caoline Cochener is and track the relationship.

bob23

Posted Thu, Sep 4, 5:16 p.m. Inappropriate

Bravo Anne Kilkenny!: I applaud Ms. Kilkenny's courage in writing this letter. Coming from a small town as she does and seemingly Palin is popular in parts of Alaska, it just seems very honorable and courageous for Ms. Kilkenny to tell the truth about Palin. The truth shall set you free and clearly we as Americans need many more truth seekers in order to help us to see the way to restore our Constitution and renew our nation in the manner in which our Founding Fathers dreamed. (Including separation of Church and State!)

kjboy27

Posted Thu, Sep 4, 5:22 p.m. Inappropriate

RE: About Anne Kilkenny's e-mail: did YOU find out who she is bob? because I could copy and paste her email into a word document and send it to all my friends and it could eventually make its way to you and then you'd think I wrote it. wait, no you wouldn't, because I don't think my microsoft word is registered under my name. i think you already pointed that out, but the point is even if you can make a connection its still pretty meaningless. Besides, it sounds like people have already questioned her about writing it.

As for this being a smear campaign, everything in here is easily verifiable. It's only been 2 days; I'm sure we'll be getting the info to prove/disprove these allegations shortly. And whoever was picking on the self-professed inaccuracy of the data that couldn't be verified, who gives a shit whether she was mayor of a town of 5,000 or 5,300.

Posted Thu, Sep 4, 9:12 p.m. Inappropriate

Kudos for Kilkenny: Ms. Kilkenny's recitation is a breath of fresh air in the midst of endless political rhetoric. Let the truth be told~
Having been employed by both state and federal governments, I can attest to the inner "workings" and "good-ole-boy" syndromes that abound. It seems like yesterday that I was training the commissioner's ____________ (fill in the blank with any relative's description) to be "my boss" so that they could collect six-figures a year pushing paper (and b.s.) from behind a desk. Do people actually think that this issue is isolated?
It amazes me that some cannot see that Ms. Palin would not be where she is today if she were not the ruthless, conniving, cut-thoat, game-player she clearly has to be. Just think, if McCain - at his tender age of 72 - suffers some sort of health issue or even death, where exactly would we be? Hmmm... Well, we'd be stuck with a woman who offers virtually no experience (unless you count town council) whose major aspiration was to be a sportcaster for ESPN! Can you say "smile for the camera?" Now, doesn't that just make you feel warm and fuzzy all over? (gag)
For those of you who claim that Ms. Kilkenny offers nothing more than smear tactics, I feel pity. Clearly, you've either just removed your head from the sand or you choose not to see the truth as it is. Just keep looking through your rose-colored glasses and tell yourself that it'll all be OK, right?
Shame on YOU, Palin supporters. Do your homework. Don't be so caught up in the God almighty "party" wars. America can't afford a McCain administration and this VP nomination is just a sad statement of what misery lies ahead. - OBAMA FOR CHANGE -
maine201

Posted Fri, Sep 5, 1:25 a.m. Inappropriate

RE: About Anne Kilkenny's e-mail: This is silly, Bob. Use some common sense. Don't let partisan bias cause a mental block.

Caroline Cochener is the person at JAC Development who copied and pasted Kilkenny's email into a Word document.

Did that really need to be explained?
JayJ

Posted Fri, Sep 5, 7:03 a.m. Inappropriate

RE: Doesn't add up: Actually, it's well known by those who study liars that those who are telling the truth often contradict themselves and that liars very often have their story straight.

joedeluca

Posted Fri, Sep 5, 7:20 a.m. Inappropriate

RE: Classic Disinformation: You GOT this email? What email would that be, Bob? Are you a friend of Ms. Kilkenny?

And what precisely are we to divine from the suggested Internet search? I'm not finding any smoking guns.

What are you smoking?
joedeluca

Posted Fri, Sep 5, 7:29 a.m. Inappropriate

RE: Librarians Against Palin: Apparently the Republicans largely lost the Libertarians in 2006. I hope the Democrats can keep them -- since Obama at least partially follows Chicago-school economics, there is some chance he will make good on his promises to balance the budget and shrink the corruption out of the budget. Libertarians might help counter some of the autocratic intuitions some of the left can sometimes display & make the Democrats into a better party. I hope they are given a place at the platform table.

But this explains why the Republicans really need to hold onto the religious extremists. It is actually a natural partnership for the party of landowners -- they use religion to explain why some people deserve to own more property than others. I don't mind it if someone excels and becomes rich through contributing to society and the economy, but I'm not crazy about small numbers of families inheriting all the power & wealth. But you could see also why this used to fit in with the libertarianism -- there's a part of that philosophy that says "I got mine". But the Bush end of the Republicans want a big government to keep giving them more & protect what they have.
Joanna

Posted Fri, Sep 5, 8:19 a.m. Inappropriate

Someone with an ax to grind: This article would be relevant and interesting except for one thing. If all of this were true, why in the world would Sarah Palin have an 80% approval rating. Me thinks that this woman has an ax to grind.

Posted Fri, Sep 5, 10:08 a.m. Inappropriate

Ruthless characterization fits GOP to a T: While I can not verify the content of the email I can easily believe much of the characterization of Ms. Palin. The ruthless nature of the GOP over the last eight years seems ready to be continued with the likes of Ms. Palin who certainly appears to have what it takes to silence anybody disagreeing with her.

glocke54

Posted Fri, Sep 5, 10:12 a.m. Inappropriate

Anchorage Daily News confirms email's authenticity: For unbelievers.

Posted Fri, Sep 5, 10:24 a.m. Inappropriate

RE: Someone with an ax to grind: Ted Stevens had a high approval rating, as well. Then again, being head of the Senate Appropriations committee, he was able to throw so much pork at Alaskans that they have the highest per-capita federal spending of all states.

Now that I mention that...do you think her high approval ratings could be attributed to the $1,200 extra dollars that Palin gave to each citizen of Alaska after passing a windfall profits tax?
DCX2

Posted Fri, Sep 5, 10:28 a.m. Inappropriate

Who is kikenny and what is her agenda?: I did a little research. Anne Kilkenny describes herself as a "reasonably well-informed housewife". But there is a little bit more to it than that, Kilkenny is a Berkley graduate, liberal activist, and political gadfly who once ran against Palin as a write in. She despises Palin and supposedly has attended every city council meeting since Palin was elected, no doubt to cause trouble.

Kilkenny lives on the public dole since her husband was forced to quit working (leukemia - now in remission thank God). So this Berkley graduate chooses be a political gadfly while sucking from the public trough rather than putting that expensive Berkley education to good use.

Kilkenny also has strong views on taxes. She wants them increased and says that citizens have a responsibility to support government. She is openly critical of elected officials who try to reduce the size of government or cut back on spending.

Kilkenny stated in the article: "While Sarah was Mayor of Wasilla she tried to fire our highly respected City Librarian because the Librarian refused to consider removing from the library some books that Sarah wanted removed."

But the Wasilla website has documents from Palin's tenure as Mayor including a library document that says NO CENSORSHIP (or any attempt to do so) ever took place.

What other distortions and fabrications has this woman fed us? Better check this out a bit more before disseminating it futher.
canmandan

Posted Fri, Sep 5, 10:39 a.m. Inappropriate

RE: About Anne Kilkenny's e-mail: So it is okay to write lies and post a disclaimer! Why not just tell the truth??

canmandan

Posted Fri, Sep 5, 10:41 a.m. Inappropriate

This seems legit to me: I admire the writer's courage and really appreciate her posting this.

I'll add that there was a less-than-flattering piece in the New Yorker a few weeks ago that did some similar work on Obama, discussing his early career and the enemies he's made. I'm mentioning it since a few people seem to be wondering if such a thing exists.
jggrossm

Posted Fri, Sep 5, 11:01 a.m. Inappropriate

Listing for Kilkenny: I was bugged by the fact that I could find many references to Ms. Kilkenny on Google, mostly regarding the famous letter, yet there seemed no conclusive proof that she exists. Initially I took the multiple references as proof... but they were just reprints by and large of the letter with various people attesting to her authenticity. I decided to google the Wasilla phone book... here's what's printed there:
Anne L Kilkenny
BOX 870163
WASILLA, AK 99687
Phone Unpublished
Unity

Posted Fri, Sep 5, 11:32 a.m. Inappropriate

Ms. Kilkenny: is jealous or has an "axe to grind" with your darling Sarah...? How well do you know Ms. Palin..met her personally..been friends with her a long time, have you..? You like Pres. Bush and what has become of your country..your wallet..? But there you are again..all ready to drink the kool-aid and happy to be fooled again...because you are Republican..and no matter how much the GOP lies to you and fools you, you are just so proud and protective...! Bet you have convinced your self (with the help of the Kool-Aid) that its all the Democrats and liberals fault..and that Obama is a Muslim..right? Shame on you for being so "easy" to manipulate...so uninformed...so blind..so one sided you will only listen to hate mongers like Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Bill O'Reilly...don't you care enough, aren't you patriotic enough..don't you love your country enough, to open up your minds..listen to both sides and make an informed decision..or are you to far gone, wrapped in potective layers of hate, religion and misconceptions...

chabuka

Posted Fri, Sep 5, 12:01 p.m. Inappropriate

Is Kilkenny telling the truth? Is there truth?: I'm flabergasted at the back and forth comments of (paraphrasing) "Anne's lying" and "She's a brave woman by telling the truth." Anne is providing one person's opinion. Even when someone is telling "the truth", it is colored by their perceptions, at minimum. It is, inherently, biased. Did everyone miss Psych 101? It is impossible to be unbiased, because we are human. So you're shocked that Anne is a democrat? She's from UC-Berkeley? She would seem to have an axe to grind with Palin? Not surprising at all. Do you honestly think Keith Olberman or any politcal comentator is unbiased? She is speaking from the heart, she was there, she knows Sarah on a first name basis? Doesn't remove her bias in the least. It is all bias and reflects their opinion. It is each of our jobs to render our own opinion. This is why the 1st Amendment exists. {sigh} Psychology and Civics lessons over. I feel better. Hope you do too.

gym

Posted Fri, Sep 5, 12:14 p.m. Inappropriate

I've heard this one before...: Charming, good-looking and charismatic?

Rose to early success based on dazzling style rather than substance?

More concerned about herself and her career than the people she claims to serve?

Avoids tough positions and takes undeserved credit for popular ideas?

Very little actual experience?

She sounds like Barack Obama.

Posted Fri, Sep 5, 12:55 p.m. Inappropriate

RE: I've heard this one before...: I HAVE heard this before.

McCain must be spelled Obama in neo-con land.
polisci25

Posted Fri, Sep 5, 1:10 p.m. Inappropriate

RE: Palin????: A child makes a mistake - the parents usually don't publicly humiliate the child. They are usually sensitive to their child's feelings - Its called compassion.

anddel

Posted Fri, Sep 5, 1:26 p.m. Inappropriate

RE: ruthless characterization fits GOP to a T: Tell me how the McCain/Palin ticket, that just perpetuated viscious and nasty lies about Obama and democrats, can possibly claim to be the candidate that will be best at bi-partisanship. What happens when a campaign so blatantly claims the higher moral ground, implies that Obama is in the race for self interest and not for America, and repeatedly seriously distorts the truth? It creates animosity - an animosity that will continue past the election that will make it hard for the country to unite behind a president. Shame on McCain and Palin - she especially seems cast in the same nasty mould as Guilliani. Watching her I can easily believe Anne Kilkennys email.

anddel

Posted Fri, Sep 5, 1:42 p.m. Inappropriate

RE: Classic Disinformation: I'm not sure why you would find this email hard to believe. It is a depiction of Sarah Palin's politics, which are definitely verifiable and in the days that follow we will see what unfolds in terms of its validity. But also very important, it sheds some light on her character. I am a skeptic about most anything I read on the internet, but this article has one thing to back it, I don't see this description of Sarah Palin's as being inconsistent with her speech. After the way she conducted herself in her speech, would you really think her to be someone of great compassion for others. To mock the work of a community organizer (which Obama did in his 20's) is an insult to anyone who has the heart and empathy to reach out and touch the lives of others. The fact that Cindy McCain shows up in attire that adds up to over $300,000, McCain is still focused on all things Military, and Palin is mocking those who work in the community, goes to show they really are out of touch with the needs of this country.

Posted Fri, Sep 5, 1:58 p.m. Inappropriate

RE: We need more than a change Osama! Ooops, I mean, Obama: Your title is offensive and racists. Clearly, you are the type of ignorant voter that is dangerous to this country's well-being.

Posted Fri, Sep 5, 3:22 p.m. Inappropriate

RE: Ms. Kilkenny: We're "wrapped in protective layers of hate"? Maybe you should read your post again.

Posted Fri, Sep 5, 3:35 p.m. Inappropriate

Mothers need to speak out: Thanks Anne, for this honest portrayal of your experience of Sarah Palin. I am a mother of five and Obama supporter who is a little irked at the way Palin is being portrayed as having the lock on the Motherhood Vote. I have just formed a nation-wide "Mothers of Five for Obama" group. Any women out there with five kids please email me (erika.munson@gmail.com) and we can show the country how much more Barack has to offer the next generation.

Posted Fri, Sep 5, 5:05 p.m. Inappropriate

RE: A Political Agenda Poorly Disguised: You probably think that NPR is a communiist conspiracy as well, but they met with her and she is authentic. Check it out: http://tinyurl.com/649y82

Posted Fri, Sep 5, 5:12 p.m. Inappropriate

no wonder she hates "comminity organizers": after reading this the title sociopath comes to mind, I have worked under women like this, and I found another job before they slipped poison in my coffee. May God deliver us from this evil one!

marygrace

Posted Fri, Sep 5, 5:31 p.m. Inappropriate

Sarah in the grocery store: The last time I saw Sarah she was in the grocery store with me. My wife is a cook and fed her in the hospital after she had her child {Trig}.
I just wonder how you would like life with 65% less oil in the United States? We all love to argue. My belief is that if the Islamic world wanted it, we could be forced to run our Armed Forces and infrastructure on 35% of the oil that we produce in the United States every day.
You must realize that without gas, natural gas, oil or electricity, you will be helpless.

A vote for Obama is a vote to create a third world America. As many may dislike the G.O.P., as I have in the past, wake up and understand that a timid Democrat WHO does not want America to stay free, and be free from terrorist oil producers. Are there problems with the G.O.P. ticket? Sure, do you want to give up your comfort for an America that willingly funds both sides of the war on terror?

Posted Fri, Sep 5, 5:32 p.m. Inappropriate

Sarah in the grocery store: The last time I saw Sarah she was in the grocery store with me. My wife is a cook and fed her in the hospital after she had her child {Trig}.
I just wonder how you would like life with 65% less oil in the United States? We all love to argue. My belief is that if the Islamic world wanted it, we could be forced to run our Armed Forces and infrastructure on 35% of the oil that we produce in the United States every day.
You must realize that without gas, natural gas, oil or electricity, you will be helpless.

A vote for Obama is a vote to create a third world America. As many may dislike the G.O.P., as I have in the past, wake up and understand that a timid Democrat WHO does not want America to stay free, and be free from terrorist oil producers. Are there problems with the G.O.P. ticket? Sure, do you want to give up your comfort for an America that willingly funds both sides of the war on terror?

Posted Fri, Sep 5, 5:43 p.m. Inappropriate

a question for Ms. Kilkenny: Hey if Ms. Kilkenny knows so much about Ms. Palin, what about the rumors that she had an affair with her husbands business partner? I normally dismiss anything that comes from the National Enquirer, but they were right about John Edwards so maybe there is something to this? I think it is an important question since she is running as a social conservative with family values and potentially just one step away from the Presidency if McCain should win. We need to know if she can be trusted and if she cheated on her husband I would question her ethics and moral character.

Posted Fri, Sep 5, 5:44 p.m. Inappropriate

this is the best, most real assessment I have read: I am a 27 year resident of Alaska, I don't know Anne or Sarah, but all the statements (and yes, opinions) of Ms. Kilkenny ring true. Although I have never attended a Wasilla city council meeting, the records and actions of Palin as related are accurate, My first reaction on hearing that Palin was running for mayor was: Wasn't she the one who closed the library? I had it wrong; it was the museum.
The scariest part of Kilkenny's story is Sarah's vindictive nature. I too have a personal story of how she retaliated against someone she did not like once she had the power to do so. But I'm guessing there are alot of stories out there just like it.
As so many people are saying: don't underestimate her; and get the facts out there!
Thank you, Anne Killkenny for providing something to inform us, not slander Palin with.
loki

Posted Fri, Sep 5, 6:03 p.m. Inappropriate

Liberals will believe anything...: Great to see liberals are getting political and fiscal education from an email written by a childs teacher. Go ahead, study it, misinterpret it, and email it to every simpleton you can find voting for Hussain.

decoon1

Posted Fri, Sep 5, 6:11 p.m. Inappropriate

The strength for the race: With Palin's religiosity having been brought into prominent view in her introductions in the past week, I can't help but have a similar question occur to me with regard to Anne Kilkenny.

Is there anybody who can fill us in on this?

Her civic involvement would certainly suggest an involvement out of a strong faith orientation, although I have know people including some of my own kin who have had the former without the latter, and neither its absence or presence is qualifying or disqualifying with regard to other views.

I don't want any privacy to be violated, but Anne Kilkenny would seem to have a strong and very public faith, whether we know what it is (unlike Palin's what seems like a very however mature ostentatious evangelicalism).

In any case, Ms Kilkenny has provided an even, candid voice in the election discourse which is a credit at its best to what it is to be an American citizen, of whatever party affiliation or political persuasion.

I, for one, am deeply grateful to her for her witness and her example.
hneftafl

Posted Fri, Sep 5, 6:15 p.m. Inappropriate

RE: The strength for the race: Dear Mrs. Kilkenny,

Thank you for your bravery and for speaking out. Your courage and honesty makes me proud to be an American.
Digibabe

Posted Fri, Sep 5, 6:26 p.m. Inappropriate

The shadow tyrant: The more I read and hear about Sarah Palin, here and elsewhere, the more she sounds like a prime tyrant in the making.

Which had Americans rather have, a tyrant and oil, or a democratic republic that finds other resources within itself and among its citizens to find new ways of running?

It's their choice, and from recent history I'd say it's a toss-up.
hneftafl

Posted Fri, Sep 5, 7:13 p.m. Inappropriate

RE: Truth more damaging: I think it was a copy of the Bill of Rights

soccermom

Posted Fri, Sep 5, 7:18 p.m. Inappropriate

RE: About Anne Kilkenny's e-mail: Face it, the mccain campaign did not vet her at all. They were on the record saying they vetted her thru google and didn't follow up until after she was named vp candidate.

anyway, my ms word is registered to my nephew b/c he installed an update when using my pc. enough w/ your stupid conspiracy theories.
soccermom

Posted Fri, Sep 5, 8:30 p.m. Inappropriate

Verification from the Alaska State Fair: I live in Anchorage and overhead several women from Wasilla commenting on Sarah Palin and life with her in Wasilla. They didn't speak too loudly because they felt they would be pressured to keep silent if they didn't go with the majority view of Palin as the great savior of Alaska. Most of what I heard rang true with the posted letter and in fact, I heard lots more. It is a small town and much harder to hide the truth. I also attended Hobo Joe's set at the fair and he, along with most Alaskans, are quite proud and happy Sarah is the VP candidate - not so much because they like her, but they think it'll be great to have an Alaskan to educate the lower 48 that they "really are a state." She's brought a lot of attention to a state where the entire population is less than the size of most metropolitan areas in the lower 48. And so people who are speaking the loudest and in public are supportive. And those are the people the mainstream press are interviewing and listening to. Prior to the Internet, Americans relied on that same press for information about candidates and it was far easier to hide the negative stuff, especially if you live in a state dominated by wilderness, moose, bears, and very few mainstream reporters. With the Internet, everyone can access millions of others with the click of a button - which doesn't mean the content is any less reliable than the mainstream press or that anyone is out to trash anyone else. It means that candidates and others can't hide as well and their past is much more transparent. Witness the trash-mouthed hockey boyfriend who's My Space was immediately changed as soon as the GOP recognized the potential negative impact on their desire to present a Disneyland version of reality.

topd

Posted Fri, Sep 5, 10:42 p.m. Inappropriate

RE: Palin????: Gym and Gogogranny,

Imagine yourself as a teenager and you do something really stupid like get pregant. Now imagine your Mom giving up a chance of a lifetime to hide your stupid mistake and spare you public humiliation. In the shorterm you might be glad your Mom gave up her dream to spare your humiliation but don't you think that for the rest of your life you would feel guilty about causing your Mom to have to give up a once in a lifetime opportunity. Sarah Palin did think about her daughter's welfare and chose to pursue the VP spot rather than subject her daughter to a lifetime of guilt. You both are sexists, leftist, parisan hacks no doubt. Oh and did I mention that you are both stupid.
bcoggins

Posted Fri, Sep 5, 10:48 p.m. Inappropriate

Be very afraid of Sarah Palin: There was a very good reason that the founders of this country required a seperation between church and state. Individuals cannot practice their religion (or practice no religion) in peace when politicians are rabid fundementalists who would impose their belief systems on others.

Those of us who are free thinkers and value this freedom should be fearful of the McCain / Palin ticket. Not because of McCain, but because of Palin.

As I see it, our fundemental liberties are at risk with Palin on the ticket. I was not a whole hearted Obama supporter in the past. In fact I was very undecided until Palin was named. I am very fearful of this woman. I sincerely believe that she is closed minded to the beliefs and desires of others and that she will not represent the people as a whole. She is a primative choice for a running mate. My vote, my work and my dollars are now with the democrats. McCain is a clown to have chosen Palin.

Posted Fri, Sep 5, 10:59 p.m. Inappropriate

RE: Thank you!: to vb and all you other jackasses on this post: You all praise Killkenney about coming out of the closet with this earthshattering information but not one of you idiots has ever questioned Obama's association with known terrorists like William Ayers. Only Sean Hannity of Fox News has pushed this story. No mainstream media outlet has pursued this story nor the story about Obama and Tony Rezco. Just like the Media was silent about John Edward's affair. The Enquirer broke this story about Edwards two years ago and we are just now finding it in the mainstream media. Investigative journalism only applies to those with Conservative leanings especially around election time. Killkenney has an obvious agenda if you want to see it. She freely admits that there is animosity between her and Palin over the library issue. Small town gossip and backbiting can be vicious. I know this firsthand. Killkenney admits that Palin is extremely popular throughtout the State of Alaska and was even voted to a second term as Mayor of the small town. On one hand Killkenney admits how well-liked Plain is and how she was elected to a second term as Mayor and then on the other hand she blasts Palin for various issues. Something doesn't pass the smell test here at all. You people are blind if you can't see that. Also, I love the way everyone is critical of Palin's experience or lack thereof but no one on this blog or in the mainstream media challenges Obama's lack of experience. Obama is going for the number one spot and Palin is going for the number 2 spot and yet no one is critical of Obama's lack of experience. What a friggin joke! Palin has more experience than Obama. What the hell does a community organizer do anyway? Give me a break. I know Obama was the legal counsel for ACORN. This get out the vote organization is as corrupt as they come. Look them up if you don't believe me. You might be able to say that Obama and Palin have about the same experience level but to me that's a stretch. Compare Obama's experience to McCain's and McCain wins hands down.

bcoggins

Posted Fri, Sep 5, 11:09 p.m. Inappropriate

RE: A Political Agenda Poorly Disguised: Independent1 ,

I totally agree with you. I smelled a rat the minute I started reading this crap. It's so obvious that this was totally contrived by the Obama campaign. To think that some lowly poor old housewife in Alaska wrote this just to save all of us poor dumb smucks from the big bad Barracuda Palin is nothing more than a fairy tale. I wonder how much Killkenney was paid by the Obama campaign/DNC to spin this tale. I am voting for McCain/Palin for sure now. Thank you for making my mind up Kilkenney.
bcoggins

Posted Fri, Sep 5, 11:11 p.m. Inappropriate

RE: Let's see--who gored your ox?: To Aceroinix I say "Right on, Right on!

bcoggins

Posted Fri, Sep 5, 11:21 p.m. Inappropriate

RE: Thanks so much!: Hey JJ,

All you got was smoke and mirrors from the Republican convention so you need more information about Palin? This I understand. So now you have one person in the entire State of Alaska who has something negative to say about Palin and you hang on every word. Are you kidding me? Your mind was made up about Palin and McCain from day one and you know it. You are a joke. Kilkenney was paid off to provide the Obama campaign with this hatchet job and if you are too blind or ignorant to see it then you derserve to get that inexperienced, elitist Obama as your President. Sometimes I am blown away by the ignorance of so many people in this country. It's scary. Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups
bcoggins

Posted Sat, Sep 6, 12:37 a.m. Inappropriate

Keep The TRUTH Coming!: We all need to copy this article, and email it to every silly conservative voter that we know.

Only Together Can We Impale the Career of This Sarah Palin!

Stand up for the Truth! Stand up Againt Sarah Palin!

Posted Sat, Sep 6, 12:40 a.m. Inappropriate

RE: Slimecut: Don't be a FOOL!

Posted Sat, Sep 6, 12:56 a.m. Inappropriate

RE: a question for Ms. Kilkenny: konakimcherry kool-aid drinker,

I thought screwing around on your spouse was okay? It was okay for Bill Clinton according to all you Libs. Suddenly you have an issue with it? What a hypocrite
bcoggins

Posted Sat, Sep 6, 1 a.m. Inappropriate

RE: Be very afraid of Sarah Palin: Hey "Woman Afraid of Palin",

I've got two things to say to you. "Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out, and good riddance!
bcoggins

Posted Sat, Sep 6, 1 a.m. Inappropriate

RE: Palin????: And you are :: RUDE!!!

It bothers me that people like you feel it necessary to become belligerent to ANYBODY you disagree with!

God forbid you act decently towards others!

Maybe you don't believe in christian Values --- Which is the most beautiful, decent thing about Christians! --- or maybe you're just not a (good) Christian?

Since you spout this Hate you couldn't possibly believe in Christ, nor Values of ANY type!

People who Hate like You lead such sad, small lives...

What a terrible waste!

Posted Sat, Sep 6, 1:21 a.m. Inappropriate

RE: Classic Disinformation: That is FALSE!

When you Google :: Caroline Cochener :: NOTHING like that comes up at all! ABSOLUELY NOTHING!

I don't know what type of Lies you are trying to Spin, but it's NOT working.

Isn't is Amazing how many people will Lie to Protect the Republicans? They must be getting really desperate.

In this election they've used Nothing but Lies against Obama! Guess what? It's not going to work! The American People are Sick & Tired of The Republican Lie Machine. After 8-Years ---- We've had enough!

Posted Sat, Sep 6, 2:12 a.m. Inappropriate

RE: Thank you so much, Mrs. Kilkenny: I couldn't agree more, and for once in my life I don't feel that I could have said it any better. Here! Here! Both to Mr. Tyler, and Mrs. Kilkenny. Thank you both very much.

Sincerely,

Teresa J.N. Barbour
Novato, CA

Posted Sat, Sep 6, 2:29 a.m. Inappropriate

RE: A Political Agenda Poorly Disguised: I find it interesting that you consider yourself to be so even handed, and so "psychic". First of all Cross Cut did not print this letter originally. Secondly, if you were to bother to take the time to do any research into the allegations made by Mrs. Mckenney, you would find that most of what she has said is verifiable. Also, that while admitedly liberally leaning, NPR interviewed this woman, as have journalists all over the world. She is intelligent and well spoken, this letter was not written for the general population but was written in response to requests from friends who wanted to know more about Palin,a woman thrust into the National attention only weeks before a Presidential Election, her friends found the information credible and shared it. In searching for informatio on this Palin woman, what are we supposed to do, just take the Republican's word for it that she's a viable VP candidate? Because, they have been so forthcoming and truthful with us over the last eight years.

It is also interesting is that your accusations actually sound more like a cooked up spin created by the Republicans to keep people from asking too many questions about this woman.

If you don't believe it, why don't you do some investigating yourself, Mrs. McKenney has nothing to gain from her truthfulness, but Palin may have everything to lose by the truth becoming common knowledge.

Enjoy your elitist, overpriced, self-indulgent coffe; it suits you.

Posted Sat, Sep 6, 3:35 a.m. Inappropriate

RE: Keep The TRUTH Coming!: This women of five should understand family values. I have five, and am voting for John McCain. The women that wrote this original article has zero credibility. She wrote this because Sarah "Hates her." How childish. She has an axe to grind. Her port barrel program probably got cut.

JB

Posted Sat, Sep 6, 9:02 a.m. Inappropriate

A CONFUSED BRITISH RUN OF THE MILL SOCCER DAD !: Dear People of the USA,
I am a regular British dad, watching and listening to all the political comment avaliable in the media regarding the forth comming election and frankly am confused over the proposed role of Sarah Palin and how it appears the the USA have so quickly accepted her into their hearts ?

Who exactly is running for President in the Republican Party, sorry GOP ? Since the announcement of Sarah Palin for VP nominee, it appears as a UK spectator, that Mr McCain has fallen off the radar and his running mate is the true induvidual being looked upon as the future "Commander in Chief" of the USA.
Mr McCain, at least from where I am sitting if elected, is certain to suffer ill health of some kind during the 4 year term, simply due to the riggors of the job entailed, leaving the USA to rely on the VP to take over the role.
Have the Republican Party seen this comming and hence started backing the VP in anticipation ?
Secondly is it common for folk in the USA following a single speech to automatically accept a nominee into ones heart, despite knowing that the Mr McCain has met the candidate less than 3 times ? Her background is still largely unknown, apart from what she wants us to know, and currently she is not exposing herself to the usual media circus that surounds any election in the first world. Does this not make anyone ask the question WHY ?

In comparison Mr Biden, appears to have taken up his role of mouse !

I hope for the sake of the world and the future of our children that America makes the right choice in the forthcomming election be it GOP or Democrat.

I myself, like Palin am confused over the global warming debate and mans effect on the planet, but realise that everytime I run my car black carbon soot comes out of the exhaust, I dont know what happend to it ! I conclude therefore if we burn all the oil and gas on the planet it probably wont be a very nice place to live, look at the Olympics and the smog issue.
I think its a great thing that people shoot an eat their own food, its very grounding, but doesnt that image also look very Russian ?
In the UK, we believed our political betters to discover 10 years later that they had sold us to the dogs and spent the profits, giving away control of our lives to whom ever has the cheapest Oil and Gas, to find that we are now all paying the price rich or poor. The promise of alternative energy solutions has been promised but alas that as far as we have got.
Political prudence on the part of Tony Blair ment that he jumped off the ship and has now left it to sink in the hands of a political party that is more concerned with it's own future, rather than the voters that put them there in the first place.
We have a Maverick Prime Minister MR Brown, he has so far lost the respect of his public, smashed the public purse and then had the cheek to say it's not his fault, it was the bigger BOYS !!!
To have a Maverick on your team is a good thing, however, Hollywod tells us in TOP GUN, that the ICEMAN usually comes through on top to lead the team as the Maverick just takes too many chances.
joolz1234

Posted Sat, Sep 6, 10:01 a.m. Inappropriate

RE: A CONFUSED BRITISH RUN OF THE MILL SOCCER DAD !: For our cousins across the pond, think Sarah Palin = Margaret Thatcher.

Maggie was dismissed as merely the daughter of a grocer who was raised in a flat above the shop. But she ended up besting the lot straight away.

I love the old joke about Baroness Thatcher and her cabinet:

Maggie Thatcher was out to dinner with her cabinet. The waiter asked her what she would like.

"I'll have prime rib," she said.

"Fine," said the waiter. "What about the vegetables?"

"They," Mrs. Thatcher said, "will have the same."

Sarah Palin will be very effective at dealing with a lot of the vegetables in Washington, D.C. I can't wait to see her preside over the U.S. Senate and cast a few tie-breaking votes as Vice President!

I can hear the bleating now.

The Piper

Posted Sat, Sep 6, 10:09 a.m. Inappropriate

the wrong idea: I, too, am a little confused. I seriously think that the american people get so caught up in who they are AGAINST, that they don't realize who they are FOR. This can be said for both sides, red and blue.

This thread is not about John McCain. It is not about Barack Obama. It is about Sarah Palin. So to all the hateful attitudes thrown around toward the presidential nominees (and their defenders here), you are all missing the point. You, very seriously, have the wrong idea.

For me, it is my job as an informed voter to be educated as much as possible on the record of possible candidates. One HAS to question sources, and there is nothing wrong with that. It is how we gain our information. However, it is also my job as an American, to vote for a person that I can personally trust. That I can relate to. That I BELIEVE in.

This is why I do not believe in Sarah Palin: I am a mother. Plain and simple.

I cannot imagine taking on the second most important position in this country WITH A FOUR MONTH OLD! especially not a four month old that has special needs. With a newborn, your focus should be on the special needs of that child, and not the special needs of the nation. I ask myself, who will she get to step in and do HER job? It just seems so selfish.

I also cannot imagine dedicating everything to my own professional advancement at a time when another one of my children should be working on theirs. If my 17 year old was just graduating from school, it is my job as a mother to make sure that she begins her own career, either academically or professionally, with as much support as possible. I had my turn to advance; as our children reach 18, it is their turn. It just seems so selfish.

Then there is the possibility that my 17 year old was pregnant. If she was, it is my job from one mother to another, to make sure I teach her to rear her children in the best way possible. That would be my grandchild, and we all know that children having children is difficult enough as it is. By not being there in full support (and don't tell me that the Vice President of the United States has the time or energy to be there as a trusted, constant support system for ANYONE), she would be doing her daughter a disservice. I don't know, it just seems so... what's the word... selfish.

so above and beyond her experience, her past, or the allegations around her, i stop as a voter, and a person, and as a mother to think about why i would or wouldn't want Sarah Palin to be in the White House. I think that everyone here should stop and do the same thing. NOT John McCain. NOT Barack Obama. but Sarah Palin.

This is about truth, and this is the very heart of it. but this truth is about each and every one of you being truthful to YOURSELVES. Be honest with yourself, and then make your choice.

Posted Sat, Sep 6, 10:31 a.m. Inappropriate

the email is not a fake: The author was interviewed on NPR.

kendrard

Posted Sat, Sep 6, 10:52 a.m. Inappropriate

The question is judgment: After reading the atricle about Gov Palins birth of her fifth child I am shocked and appalled that she would CHOOSE to put the life of her unborn child in jepordy by CHOOSING to make a flight from Texas to Alaska aboard Alaska Airlines with her water broken and her premature infants life at stake. Just by the fact she is over 40 with a downs syndrom child put her in a high risk pregnancy situation. I question her judgment in that she would put her carreer and own selfish desires before the safety of her child. A fifth child can come fast and a preterm delivery can come faster what was she planning to do if the delivery became immenint in flight? Pre term infants and specifically downs syndrome infants usually need more support just after birth to help them make the transition to extrautering life. A hospital birth, attended by professionals who can handle the special circumstances of a multiparous, high risk pregnance with a neonate who will need support after birth should have been her main focus not getting back to Alaska. If Trigg had been born in that plane he could have esily not made it to touch down. I know they have Dr.s in Texas and Hospitals that could have handled the birth of her child with out difficulty. So why was it so important to get on the plane and put herself and her child in danger? When push comes to shove what kind of decisions will she make if she cannot make the best decision for herself and her child.

jeanne01

Posted Sat, Sep 6, 11:01 a.m. Inappropriate

On the day that Jack Abramoff was sentenced...: I can't help but wonder if "Independent1" is Karl Rove himself, or one of his trainees.
He claims not to be "a political person by nature." but then goes on an extremely partisan witchhunt against Mrs. Killkenney and against "THE CROSSCUT EDITORIAL STAFF for not performing your journalistic due diligence" without offering the slightest shred of evidence to support his vicious slanders.

"This letter ("Independent1" claims) is likely a subversive political attempt by the Obama/Biden campaign (or advocates thereof) to pass off an attack against an opponent as a first-hand report from an average citizen. If so, then it counts against them in my consideration.
I'm sure the team that cooked up and composed this letter patted themselves on the back so much that they almost dislocated their shoulders. Ultimately, this kind of thinly veiled fictionalized journalism is insulting to your readers and the voting public."
It takes a cynical deceiver like yourself "Independent1" to see your own reflection in others!!!! See
JesusNoRepublican.Org/
for the contrast between Jesus and the Greedy Old Party of deceit, dishonesty and immorality.
Rayosun

Posted Sat, Sep 6, 11:07 a.m. Inappropriate

Don't buy misinformation about Obama's experience: Barack Obama is a U.S. Senator...he has been for 2 years. He was an Illinois State Senator for 8 years. During those 10 years he has authored 890 bills, many of which became law, and co-sponsored 1046 more. That's more than McCain's output in 26 years! Obama's experience as a community oprganizer, which the Republicans seem to love to ridicule, was 20 years ago. He is 47. McCain's idol, Teddy Roosevelt, was only 42 when elected. John F. Kennedy was 43. Five president's were Obama's age or younger when elected, 4 others were only 1 to 2 years older. The U.S. Constitution says you can run for President at age 35. Tell Bill Gates and Larry Page and Sergey Brin (founders of Google) that you can't be competent and experienced at that age. INTELLIGENCE is the key...Obama has it, McCain doesn't. I don't want a President who was 5th from the bottom of his class of 899 at Annapolis(McCain) any more than I have wanted a President who was a cheer leader at Yale, with less than mediocre grades(Bush).

dwb

Posted Sat, Sep 6, 11:09 a.m. Inappropriate

Wasn't Jesus a "community organizer" ?: Wasn't Jesus a "community organizer"
and Pontius Pilate a "governor" ?


See JesusNoRepublican.Org/ which shows the world of difference between Jesus of Nazareth
and the modern day Pharisees who claim the mantle of Jesus in America today
.
Rayosun

Posted Sat, Sep 6, 12:28 p.m. Inappropriate

Watch Out! She's a Shrewd Narcissist Hungry for Power: If you don't know what a narcissist is, please look it up. Sarah Palin requires complete loyalty, and gives the axe to anyone who does not yield to her. This makes her not unlike George W. Bush, and this trait of ruthlessness is what has made her attractive to the Republican elite. This 2008 Republican ticket would bring down further disaster upon our beloved country. People who would be confused by looks and charm need to take a long hard look at the McCain-Palin ticket before voting in this election. The common people who need it most will not get affordable health care from McCain-Palin. MCCain-Palin will not reverse the irresponsible course taken by Bush-Cheney on the environment. A clue: Palin currently has a lawsuit against the US government against listing polar bears as endangered. It is a chilling thought that Palin could be not just President of the Senate, presiding over long seasoned statesmen/women, but President of the United States of America if a very imaginable event were to occur.

slatook

Posted Sat, Sep 6, 1:59 p.m. Inappropriate

RE: the wrong idea: jesidawkins, maybe you said it correctly " I am a mother, Plain and simple" Sarah Palin is not just a mother, plain and simple. As a long time Alaskan, and being neither Democratic or Republican I can say, from my perspective, that she has done a miraculous job for the state of Alaska. In a state where you can't get 10 people to agree on any one thing, she has gotten legislation passed against all odds. The legislation that she has gotten passed has greatly benefited all Alaskans. Her strength and power comes from the fact that she uses good judgment and common sense to make decisions, rather than emotion. People who are raised and nurtured close to the earth, which she was, seem to have a better sense of reality than do people that are raised away from their basic sustenance. Just our weather here in Alaska can cause a person, regularly, to have to make life or death decisions. You don't get many chances to make mistakes with our weather. I have read the comments made by Anne Kilkenny and it sounds to me like she is a Sarah Palin wannabe, but just doesn't have what it takes. She, of course, is entitled to her opinion, however slanted or not slanted it is. I listened, on the radio, to her being interviewed and was struck by how overjoyed she was to be getting all the attention. She just could not wait for the next phone call. Is she putting country first or herself ? Also, since the library is such a powerful place, I think it would be irresponsible for a mayor not to want to know what the librarians views are. For those of you that do not think censorship is alive and well, you should review the Crosscut Comment" terms of service". Some time censorship is necessary. As for experience, wise people make wise decisions by knowing where to go to get the answer. Sarah Palin is very wise even if her rivals call her just a Babe. She will make an excellent VP. NorthTo TheFuture.

Posted Sat, Sep 6, 3:30 p.m. Inappropriate

A female Cheney?: Whether Ann Kilkennys statements biased or not, whether she has a hidden agenda or not even if she is *** liberal.
If you listen to Sarah Palins words and sarcasim doesn't she remind you of Darth (Cheney)?

Is accepting the Sarah Palin's appointment without question or attacking those who do question, the same tactics that took us to Iraq after 9/11?

Why is Jamie Lynn Spears pregnancy the fault of her parents and based on little control by her parents and Bristol's is a personal matter and off limits? (per Bill O' Reilly) (Jamie supported Bristol with note and gift)

Is it sexist to bash Hillary and not Sarah?

If McCain/Palin win in 08 and if Palin has to finish his term and then is re-elected as President Palin,wll the glass ceiling will fall and cut the heads off of all the liberals/Demorats?

Remember your world history, Hitler was elected legally, one of his parties first acts was to outlaw the opposition (Communist and Social-Democrats). Remember "power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely"

Can we preserve our democratic institutions if we don't change leadership and congress every so often?

What will happen if McCain/Palin get elected and Palin for some reason has to finish Mc Cains term and then is elected in her own right, will the two party system be one?

When did being liberal become akin to child molester?

If on poitical spectrum socialists/communists and stand next to and left of liberal democrats who are to the right of conservative-republicans?

Who will bring the most change?
1trekker

Posted Sat, Sep 6, 3:47 p.m. Inappropriate

Housewife huh?: For a housewife your sure have are free with your numbers. Are you jealous? Did you know that Dick Cheney is related to Sarah? Look it up. There are reasins for all of the improvments in Alaska while she was the GOV.

Posted Sat, Sep 6, 4:25 p.m. Inappropriate

RE: Be very afraid of Sarah Palin: I find it very interesting that I have read through all the comments on this article, and you are the only poster who chooses to express their opinion in extremely crude and rude terms, over and over. Why you think that use of such language would encourage anyone to either agree with you, or to join your "side" is beyond me. I do not, in "real" life or internet life, choose to associate with people who feel that speaking to others in such a fashion is acceptable. It is not.

I consistently get the same type of vitriolic e-mails in my inbox. I find it very, very interesting - and disturbing - that they are all from Republicans. This is really very frightening.

If the only way someone can present or defend a viewpoint is with hate and aggression, it implies very strongly to me that there are no facts to back up their opinion. Or else surely they would be using them instead of the aggression and hate?

bcoggins I respect your right to your views; I do not respect your choice of how to present them. I find it offensive, and question whether it meets the guidelines for posting in this forum.
ruralart

Posted Sat, Sep 6, 6:07 p.m. Inappropriate

I can't believe Palin is for real: As a woman, I am totally appalled by Palin. McCain barely knew about her, and
then he approached her to be his candidate? Come on, if Palin is all she says she is (which I find hard to believe) then why hadn't McCain heard of her before? If I were Palin, I wouldn't have accepted the call from McCain, and would have asked him how long had he heard of my record? No, she just like a puppy dog wanting approval immediately said yes. She wants to go after her own agenda and is extremely treacherous.

I am appalled at how ill informed American voters are, and how we can blindly trust and believe how wonderful the past 8 years have been. It is difficult to accept change but we desperately need change and McCain/Palin are not the ones proposing change.

Posted Sat, Sep 6, 6:16 p.m. Inappropriate

Kilkenny needs to be vetted: I think it is fairly obvious that Kilkenny has an agenda, seems bitter and is, at a minimum, jealous of Palin's accomplishments. She expresses her opinions as fact rather than what they are, her opinions. Her "memo" should be vetted to see which of these things are true and we should all be suspect until that has been done. I think her title "For those who make decisions based on facts:" is presumptuous and disingenuous.

In any event, I think (note I am stating an opinion) Sarah Palin is a refreshing change for the conservative side and I'm sure a very real challenge to the Liberal side. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

Posted Sat, Sep 6, 6:38 p.m. Inappropriate

RE: Jealousy: Sounds like the woman is jealous of Palin. Obviously disgruntled about something.

Yeah. Disgruntled about Palin wanting to fire the librarian for questioning Palin's inquiry into banning books. Banning books, after all, not being a very American thing to do.

Posted Sat, Sep 6, 7:55 p.m. Inappropriate

Republicans and personal attacks: I find it very interesting that the Republicans, from the leaders to bloggers on this site, are having trouble coming up viable intelligent agruments to things that they disagree with so they resort to name calling and personal attacks. The only time that there was any excitement in the crowd at the RNC was when a speaker was attacking and exhibiting hatred towards Obama or the Democrats.

I watched quite a bit of both conventions the contrasts were extreme. From the ethnic make up and the age of the deligates (I now know why they are called the GO(OOOOOOOLD)P)to the tone. The Democrats talked of hope and change while the Reps talked about war and how much they hate liberals. Are Democrat soldiers less brave that Republican soldiers. The GOP would have you believe that they have cornered the market on patriotism and love of country. Does anyone not in that convention hall believe that? I really hope that that is NOT the case.

Posted Sat, Sep 6, 8:27 p.m. Inappropriate

Where has McCains" ethics gone?: Unbelievable to me, he hired the same political hack in South Carolina that slandered him in his unsuccessful run against "W" in 2000. Charlie Condon, the former South Carolina State Attorney General, created a phony phone poll that suggested that McCain's adopted daughter, from Bangladesh, was his black illegitimate child with a prostitute. Carl Rove, the darling of the Republican Party, orchestrated this ploy. Due to this attack McCain lost South Carolina and "W" took the Republican nomination. I don't think McCain in 2000 would have taken us into Iraq. How can McCain get into bed with the same man who slandered him and his family, esp. a defenseless child? The same person who denied McCain a chance to attain the presidency when he was 8 years younger and in fairly good health.

Is he running to serve the country or his legacy? Sarah Palin may well be another Chester A. Arthur who rose to be president after Garfield's assassination. Why would McCain put our country into this situation? Yikes!

Posted Sat, Sep 6, 11:07 p.m. Inappropriate

RE: Let's see--who gored your ox?: Like she said she has nothing to lose or her speaking out does not put other people at risk. You people want to only listen to those who have something good to say. Here's an idea, why don't palin come out and speak for herself, we are less than 60 days to election and mcsame camp will not let her speak outside of her one debate.....that is not change I can believe in

pboutte

Posted Sun, Sep 7, 3:28 a.m. Inappropriate

Thank-you to a true patriot: Ms. Kilkenny, I believe that you are a true patriot. Thank-you for taking the risk you have taken to give your fellow Americans this important information. Writing this piece, allowing its distribution, and accepting interviews to discuss it are brave and principled acts.

srd

Posted Sun, Sep 7, 4:50 a.m. Inappropriate

RE: a question for Ms. Kilkenny: Screwing around is definitely o.K., you see John McCain did it when he met Cindy....long before Bill Clinton did. While the Republicans tried to impeach him for it, you guys are now trying to elect McCain despite it? Kind of hypocritical I'd say.

drewtom

Posted Sun, Sep 7, 4:53 a.m. Inappropriate

RE: Keep The TRUTH Coming!: I believe it's "pork barrel", but your lack of education really helps your credability. Keep it up.

drewtom

Posted Sun, Sep 7, 5:04 a.m. Inappropriate

RE: Palin????: WOW! With supporters as understanding and misguided as you, it's no wonder the American people could be fooled into supporting this crack-pot.

The only sexist thing here is that John McInsane thinks women will support her who previously were Hillary supporters. Beyond the fact Palin's believes, policies and personal values are the exact opposite of Hillary; she is also completely unqualified. What is parisan mean anyway?

We'll take it to mean: thoughtful, educated, well informed, open minded, non-judemental, not easily snowed. So, Thanks.
drewtom

Posted Sun, Sep 7, 5:17 a.m. Inappropriate

Sarah Palin: This sounds like sour grapes to me. It was written by a woman with little or no ambition to work outside the home. It is definitely not unusual for a new administration to fire even the most experienced workers. When the new president takes the oval office, it is likely he will not keep those currently employed. While taking books from the library was probably not a good idea, it is certainly not the worst move an executive could make. Most states have tax on food, so that is really not newsworthy either. Most states work under a deficit, as well. I think this was written by a jealous woman who needs to lighten up. Who really cares how a candidate for vice-president got a point guard job in the tenth grade?--probably the one she beat for that position.

rustay

Posted Sun, Sep 7, 6:03 a.m. Inappropriate

Not a fake: The e-mail is not a fake. An interview with the woman that wrote the e-mail was broadcast on NPR on Friday.

Posted Sun, Sep 7, 7:29 a.m. Inappropriate

Seeing it on NPR doesn't make the contents of the email any more credible: I am not questioning that the email was written. I'm questioning the embittered, jealous and angry tone of her "memo". She simply hates Palin and is far from objective.

Saying it is real and "I saw it on NPR" is bogus. NPR is in the same class as NBC and the NY Times and possibly worse when it comes to impartiality.

This woman sounds like a female Roger Moore.

Posted Sun, Sep 7, 7:37 a.m. Inappropriate

What about the environment: http://www.defendersactionfund.org/newsroom/sarah_palin.html

How can a person claim to be working to live under the example of Christ and still promote the slaughter of innocent animals from an aerial vantage point? Please. This woman's record on the environment and wildlife preservation speaks volumes about who she is and what really matters to her. Setting up a bounty on wolves and requiring their front leg to be brought in as proof! Good God! Really?!? This is the BEST John could do. Really? Yep, she's stirring it up, all right. Bringing a lot of attention to the Reps, but can we get past the opinion that she's a "babe" and look at what she stands for? Drill baby Drill???!!! Really? Because we all know what a pristine record the oil industry has for keeping that crap contained. For Pete sakes, there are areas in Alaska that are still feeling the effects of the Valdez. Now tell me those rigs in one of the most amazing, untouched area of our planet, ANWR, are not going to be vulnerable to breech or human error. It's not if it's when. It may seem like a long ways away from any of use living the life in the lower 48, but don't be fooled. Some how, some day a disaster in that area will impact you. Perhaps with a major bump in fuel cost just like we endure every time a friggin' hurricane moves through the Gulf of Mexico. Another brilliant, well though out plan. I'm sure some drill happy oil monger sold that idea to someone as golden too. "Yes, we only have months on end of a regular flight pattern of these catastrophic storms move through this area, but there's oil here. We have to drill it no matter the cost!" Anyone out there like wild salmon? Let's talk about Bristol Bay. No matter that the proposed mining project near the headwaters of the Bay would be horribly polluted and threaten the spawning grounds for one of the larges salmon populations in Alaska. Palin supported it! I believe that's where her husband fishes. Have fun bringing that toxic crap home to your family. She's also suing the federal government. Seems the mass population and scientific evidence supporting the threat to the polar bears matters not to Ms. Palin. She saw some polar bears with her own eyes and they looked fine. How does having a journalism degree make her qualified to assess the status of the polar bear population? So bizarre. Honestly people, any Hilary supporter that may feel lost in this election best look elsewhere to satisfy their political dissatisfaction. Obama could have written his ticket to a life of luxury. For heaven sakes, the guy has a brain. Which is more than can be said for the recent offerings of the Republican Party. The President of the Harvard Law Review takes to the ghettos of the South side of Chicago? That's called SERVICE people. It may seem foreign to some, but take a good look at it. Hopefully, there's more to come! Oh, and one more thing, of course she's popular in Alaska. She's used the same old George Bush tactic of throwing the general public a monetary bone to chew on to keep them happy. Just like the crazy, in the mist of huge federal dept, tax credit checks we all enjoyed, Palin's willingness to keep giving back the massive surpluses her state enjoys on the backs of all of us trying to put gas in our cars in conjunction with her taking more of our money through ear marked federal funds is an insult I can't believe anyone should be satisfied with… Oh, unless you live in Alaska. You can count on having to give that money back in some way or another, too. Someone's got to pay for this debit. If the M/P ticket should miraculously win this fall, brace yourself for more of the same…
firemom

Posted Sun, Sep 7, 7:45 a.m. Inappropriate

RE: Don't buy misinformation about Obama's experience: Thanks for this excellent post. I listened to the RNC speeches, esp those of Guiliani and Palin, absolutely dumbfounded. Besides the misinformation about Obama's experience and qualifications, the mockery of "community organizers" and, presumably, other Americans who work hard in volunteer or low paid jobs to serve the public and to act on their beliefs, was outrageous. Why is an early career as a sportscaster (Palin) more laudable than Obama's community service, which I believe included helping workers who had been displaced from their jobs? And, your point about INTELLIGENCE is extremely well taken. We need leaders who are intelligent and have good judgment. In Obama's case, his choice of Biden as VP demonstrated to me that he has the judgment and confidence to surround himself with more seasoned individuals, and that he is open to learning more from their knowledge and experience. My friends and I have discussed this many times. If "elite" means well-educated and hard working, with a history of curiosity about and commitment to fundamental issues facing our country, then we want our president to be an "elite", thank-you-very-much. We have plenty of buddies to have a beer with already ;-) As a minor point, I think Obama was elected to the Senate in 2004, meaning he has served 3 years not 2.

srd

Posted Sun, Sep 7, 7:56 a.m. Inappropriate

Too many angry and mean spirited people on this site: I'm concerned about Obama actually running the country and having no management experience. I realize Palin has little experience but she will learn on the job in the number 2 position.

I'm also concerned about Obama's affiliations with Tony Rezco, William Aires and Jeremiah Wright. Rezco is under indictment, and Aires is unrepentant and said he didn't bomb enough. I think Wright is a racist that is furthering the victimization sense (of some in Black Community) that Bill Cosby has been trying to expose for years.

Everyone has been involved with political expedience. McCain and Obama and Palin.and Biden (more so). Doesn't make it right but, unfortunately, I don't think that will ever change.

We just need to get the USA out of the "Culture war" and move in a more positive direction. I have never seen the two main political parties more polarized and mean spirited.

Posted Sun, Sep 7, 8:19 a.m. Inappropriate

RE: Too many angry and mean spirited people on this site: The real attacks didn't begin getting personal until Palin arrived. I thought both McCain and Obama have been quite civil to each other while simply pointing out their differences. Obama did not attack Palin, he's focusing on his platform. She came out of left field and discredited his service work in Chicago, among other things. I'd love to hear the Republican plan spelled out as clearly as the Demos did during their convention. If they would all just focus on their plans, if they have one, and not on the back biting, this would be more pleasant to watch. Palin doesn't change anything for the Reps other than adding a sensational element. She stands for all the same stuff the Bush camp does. Zero consideration for the environment, focus big money, big oil, mining, and corporate support, all at the expense of us middle class folks, making well under 6 figures. If you want to rich to get richer... GO MCCAIN/PALIN.

firemom

Posted Sun, Sep 7, 8:22 a.m. Inappropriate

Amniocentesis: Why would Palin have an amniocentesis in the first place? An amnio puts life of fetus (and even mother) in danger. It is not without risk. Why bother? If the fetus was abnormal she would not have aborted. So why have it done?

Can anyone (with credible medical knowledge) help to inform me? Anyone ingonorant of the true pros and cons of an amniocentesis need not reply. Thanks.

Posted Sun, Sep 7, 9:31 a.m. Inappropriate

RE: What about the environment: Let me clarify the ghetto of the south side of Chicago... We're not talking about the projects, predominantly black. I'm referring to coming to the aid of the steel workers, many of whom were white, after their jobs were lost when the steel plants closed. Where do you suppose that steel is being produced now?

Maybe not the ghetto in the classic sense of the word, but I'd guess that if Ms. Palin was to so much as drive through this area of Illinois during this era she'd been rolling up her windows saying, "Good golly, what's that nasty smell? Drive faster..." Service people, keep that in mind.
firemom

Posted Sun, Sep 7, 10:45 a.m. Inappropriate

Immediate Condemnation: I had never heard of her before her selection as McCain's running mate, but I have some friends who grew up in Alaska and pay attention to local politics. As soon as they heard about the news, they thought that nothing could be worse for the state of Alaska or the US than her becoming VP. They said, in that position she will just do whatever she wants without thinking of the consequences. I started reading about her history that day and from what I read, I wouldn't trust her to babysit my cat let alone be in any elected position of any power.

rithean

Posted Sun, Sep 7, 11:11 a.m. Inappropriate

Hearsay, hearsay, hearsay: A lot of talk and absolutely no substance. Basing opinions on hearsay is irresponsible and causes the divisions to deepen.

Those of you that continue to mislead on this and other blogs are only fooling yourselves. You're just poop disturbers..... For gosh sakes, let's have some honest dialogue.

One thing for sure, Palin, unlike Obama (this is a fact people), and to her credit, doesn't have friends like Aires, Rezco and Wright. Obama is the one to worry about. Change indeed.....

Posted Sun, Sep 7, 11:44 a.m. Inappropriate

Amniocentesis: I did a fairly thorough online investigation of amniocentesis since no one out there has been able to answer my question regarding why Palin chose to have an amnio in the first place. I also spoke with a professor of medicine (albeit he is not a specialist in ob/gyn) about this. I also spoke with an RN who is a labor and delivery nurse.

From what I can gather, there is no reason to do an amniocentesis other than to look for chromosomal or neural tube abnormalities. Apparently all women undergoing the procedure are counseled that the procedure has risks including spontaneous abortion (stats vary but they can be as high as 1 in 200) and that amniocentesis is not recommended if termination of the pregnancy would not be considered.

So if the above is accurate, I can't see why Palin would even choose to have an amnio. I am a mother and have a family history of Down's Syndrome (a sibling that died in infancy from heart failure). When I became pregnant I was informed that I was at an increased risk for a Down's baby, but I didn't have an amnio so why did she choose to do so? It's a curiosity to me and I'd appreciate an informed answer from someone who specializes in the field.

Posted Sun, Sep 7, 1:03 p.m. Inappropriate

RE: Amniocentesis: That is strange. I too had a pregnancy late in life. The docs wanted me to get an amnio. When I asked why and what the risks were I had two parts to my reply. One, I didn't care if the fetus wasn't developing normally. I wasn't going to abort it anyway. MY CHOICE because I have one. Second, I could never forgive myself if I had a miscarriage due to the amnio, regardless of the status of the babies development. Did I mention I had a choice...

Perhaps they wanted to have an opportunity to plan if they were going to have a special needs baby. Knowing in advance would have allowed for intelligent career choices if the given circumstances meant more time at home for tending the family. Knowing in advance can also ease the psychological impact of a situation like that. Another personal choice we're granted in this time of high tech means to peak into the future. I personally didn't care to know.
firemom

Posted Sun, Sep 7, 1:46 p.m. Inappropriate

Sarah Palin stoops LOW: Listen to the telephone interview; Sarah Palins giggles as Lyda Green, cancer survivor is ridiculed:
http://www.adn.com/opinion/comment/story/295464.html

Posted Sun, Sep 7, 1:53 p.m. Inappropriate

RE: Immediate Condemnation: Amen! Palin is a vindictive and narrow minded power monger.
I do live in Alaska.
Listen to her giggle on a phone interview about Lyda Green, cancer survivor - is ridiculed and called a b*t*h.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9AIDRGzUAw&feature;=related

Posted Sun, Sep 7, 2:31 p.m. Inappropriate

the past eight years: As evidenced by the past eight years !

jeanne01

Posted Sun, Sep 7, 2:55 p.m. Inappropriate

RE: Thanks so much!: As evidenced by the last eight years!

jeanne01

Posted Sun, Sep 7, 4:15 p.m. Inappropriate

Mr. Ingram. I think that you may mean Micheal Moore not Roger.: Just because Republicans denounce Mr. Moore doesn't mean that everything he shows or says is false. Much of what is portrayed in his films is factual. Trying to discredit anyone that disagrees or questions republican policies or action is one the most important strategies in thier playbook. It is much easier to do that than face or disprove allegations.

Posted Sun, Sep 7, 4:20 p.m. Inappropriate

Mr. Ingram: Do you think that FOX is the only valid TV news organiziation in North America.

Posted Sun, Sep 7, 6 p.m. Inappropriate

Palin perspective - from an Alaskan Conservative: Sarah Palin committed the biggest blunder in the history of the State of Alaska: She pushed a plan to sell Alaska's Gas to Canada for half what she could sell it to China, Japan, and/or Korea - her published reason was that she wanted to help America with it's Energy deficit which is either an outright lie or is niave beyond her existing and proposed pay grade. (At that time was she Alaska's Governor or America's Govenor?). As former Governor Hickel pointed out - Alaskan Gas will never make it to market in the lower 48 States - it will be utilized by the Multi-Nationals to extract Crude-Oil from the Tar Sands in Canada. Mrs. Palin's approved plan will extract 500 million dollars from the treasury of Alaska to be given in the form of a grant to Trans-Canada - a multi-national pipeline corporation which will utimately be controlled by Exxon-Mobile, British Petroleum, Shell Oil and/or Conocco Phillips.

Alaska has in it's Reserve Fund enough money to build a Gas line and Tidewater Terminal next to the Trans-Alaska oil Terminal in Valdez out of pocket and contract with a major Pipeline Company to operate the line and terminal. Furthermore, Alaskan Native leaders were stiffed because the All Alaskan line came with the proposal to build spur lines to Western Alaskan villages that are paying $8.50/gal for diesel for heat and over $.50/KWH for electricity. Alaska has the permits in hand to construct the Gasline to Valdez, has the vessels lined up to deliver the Gas anywhere in the world, and contracts from Asian buyers. Mrs. Palin's plan will take $500 million in public money to be given to a multi-national pipeline company, will sell the gas for half of what it's worth, and will deny the State of Alaska the transportion fees from the multi-national producers on the North Slope - for the promise of a pipeline that will be built when Trans-Canada or should we say Exxon-Mobile decides to move the gas. This is Econ 101 at best. Either Ms. Palin is niave enough to feed in to the propaganda or she is Politically motivated beyond all reason. Either choice should exclude her from consideration for any position in leadership - a wise choice would be to return her to Alaska to face the music.

I am personally not aware of Ms. Palin's history in Wasilla - but based upon her demonstrated public record as Governor - the above appears to follow the pattern.

Former Republican Governor Jay Hammond, if he were still with us, would have vigorously opposed Ms. Palin's leadership in Alaska relative to the Gasline as did Wally Hickel. Ms. Palin meanwhile can promote herself as one who stood up to the "good ol boy" network in Alaska. The next time you hear that statement from her, ask yourself just who then did she stand up for - a positively true statement is not for the people of Alaska.

Bob Williams
Valdez

Posted Sun, Sep 7, 7:22 p.m. Inappropriate

Response to Bob Williams: Hey Bob,

Sorry you're so unhappy with Sarah Palin. You probably know her approval rating is 86% in Alaska and 75% among Democrats in Alaska. You seem to be in the minority of people unhappy with Governor Palin's performance. Kind of makes your comments suspect.

Just a note: the latest USA Today/Gallup Pole just released this afternoon 9/7/08 shows McCain at 50% and Obama at 46%. And another interesting tidbit: Obama was ahead in the polls with 19% for the economy over McCain that number just dropped to 3% over McCain.

End the derision and lets pull together and get the best person(s) for our next leaders.

Posted Sun, Sep 7, 7:37 p.m. Inappropriate

RE: esponse to Bob Williams: Well sure, we're caught up in the sensationalism of having a chic on the ticket. Fresh meat who happens to like giving the citizens of Alaska large chunks of state surplus funds. Cha Ching. Money talks. Oh and did I mention that she's a BABE! Not like that old blister Hilary. But we have yet to hear what she and McCain plan to do for us blue collar types who are continually taking in the shorts as the rich get richer. All we've heard is more war, more tax cuts for the people who don't need it, and an unbridled raping of our environment. Sounds good to me. Go Mc P! I'd love 4-8 more years of the Bush camp politics. I just hope she doesn't have another sister on the brink of divorce. That poor bastard doesn't stand a chance. Yeeee Haw! Only in America!

firemom

Posted Sun, Sep 7, 7:41 p.m. Inappropriate

Footnote: When Palin touts her experience as someone knowledgeable about Energy development, ask her where the LNG from Exxon's investment in Indonesia is headed for. Answer: The same markets Alaskan LNG was (past tense).

So Esso(Exxon in Canada gets Alaska gas for the Tar Sands instead of the lower 48 and the Asians buy gas exclusively from Exxon) - go Sarah - good luck fighting the Big Boys in D.C. - you are going to need it !

Posted Sun, Sep 7, 8:12 p.m. Inappropriate

Opinion Polls: Get real - you expect me to base my opinion of Sarah Palin on somebody's poll as opposed to two Governors who did nothing but good for the people of Alaska ?

Posted Sun, Sep 7, 8:25 p.m. Inappropriate

Econ 101: It's Econ 101 Baby - Big Oil understands that much. Don't ask me to support an Econ 101 Ditso in the world we live in based on 30 second sound bites, convention speeches, and photo ops.

See ya!

Posted Sun, Sep 7, 8:38 p.m. Inappropriate

palin's amnio: to all who critisize, please be aware that i am new to internet commenting and what i say is only my opinion.
i had not considered the risk of amnio on the baby but of course it is a valid concern; however, in previous comments i read that palin said that her water broke while she was in texas and she chose to take an 8 hour flight and a 2 hour car ride to return to alaska to have the baby. knowing, as she did, that the baby was already high-risk and premature--- my first thought was that she must have been hoping that she would loose that baby. i know that sounds like a dreadful thing to think, but why else would she chose to travel back to alaska... if in fact she did, because i don't know that it is a fact, only what i read. but i do know that i am a mother and a grandmother and my babies always come first.
concerned

Posted Sun, Sep 7, 8:44 p.m. Inappropriate

Response to Firedad: Hey Firedad,

Sorry you're so unhappy with Sarah Palin. You probably know her approval rating is 86% in Alaska and 75% among Democrats in Alaska. You seem to be in the minority of people unhappy with Governor Palin's performance. Kind of makes your comments suspect.

Just a note: the latest USA Today/Gallup Pole just released this afternoon 9/7/08 shows McCain at 50% and Obama at 46%. And another interesting tidbit: Obama was ahead in the polls with 19% for the economy over McCain that number just dropped to 3% over McCain.

End the derision and lets pull together and get the best person(s) for our next leaders.

Posted Sun, Sep 7, 9:51 p.m. Inappropriate

RE: esponse to Firedad: Firedad???
Cut and Paste. Nice. I didn't say I was unhappy with Sarah. I've never met the woman. I just have to wonder why she's been the VP side kick for McCain for over 9 days now and refuses to sit down with an unbiased reporter and start answering some of the questions that seem to be reeling around her nomination. Really, we'd just like to hear her speak in her own pit bull words instead of reciting, very well I might add, something scripted by a team of pros. One of the McCain reps said she wouldn't talk to the press until they treat her with respect. Now, we've all watched the press crawl up Hillary's backside enough times to realize that comes with the territory. Welcome to the real world. The press hasn't done anything to Ms. Palin that is hasn't done to numerous women and men before her. They are there for all of us. The unofficial 4th branch of the Federal Government. One more means of checks and balance. Less we forget, if it wasn't for the ruthless perseverance of the press, Tricky Dick would have never been found out! So I say, 'Buck up little camper. Sooner or later you have to face the press." Moreover, when I say "the press," I don't mean some cake interview with Charlie Gibson, where all the ground rules of what's "taboo" have been laid out before him. Really, we need to handle this one with tlc? Interesting. I'm glad she's popular in Alaska and I'm thrilled that the GOP is getting the defibrillation it's been looking for. This country will get just what it deserves if the M/P ticket wins. Just like we got for the last 8 years... I think it's just priceless when the rally cry for the Rep has now become "CHANGE." Don't they realize that every time they rip on all these mystical no name people that they're blaming for our current condition, or how crappy things are, and how unethical things have been in DC of late, it's the very party they're a part of that they're railing on. That milky white crowd is the same bunch of nuts that were pounding their chest a mere 4 years ago about the biggest loser president this country's ever seen. They're so embarrassed by good old George that they were relieve that a potentially devastating hurricane was threatening to hit the coast when it did. The most insulting part of that was it was wrapped in the Rep facade of concern for the people they screwed a few years back with Katrina. If they're so embarrassed by George why are they getting so excited about a man who voted 90% George. As for your polls, seems to me most of the exit polls were in Kerry's favor a couple of years ago... that didn't turn out so good for him. Let's get to the meat and potatoes of this nonsense and see some solid interviews and gloves off debating. God I love this COUNTRY!!!!
firemom

Posted Sun, Sep 7, 11:02 p.m. Inappropriate

RE: a question for Ms. Kilkenny: What about McCain. He screwed around on his wife then dumped her to marry his current trophy wife. If Biden had a 17 yo daughter who was pregnant the religious right would go bonkers over it, but with Palin, a right-wing whaco, the religious right are praising Palin and finding every excuse as to why it was, and is okay for her daughter to be pregnant (at what age did she get impregnated, 16?)... and then we want to elect a duo that has a VP who doesn't keep track of her kid... Where was Palin or her husband when their daughter was having sex. It was during the school year, perhaps she should have spent some of her salary on a Nanny. And then there is the shotgun wedding... someone should get ahold of the perspective grooms back account and see if the balance has gone up mysteriously in the past week. we knoe his MySpace page dissapeared, but not his sisters which had the photos of Miss Paling sucking down beers and holdong a half gallong jug of booze... I would think that Mrs. Palin is instilling very good morals on her children, more likely she is more interested in her fingernails and hair.

matter

Posted Mon, Sep 8, 12:17 a.m. Inappropriate

RE: palin's amnio: concerned, you are not the Governor of Alaska either, sometimes people with important responsibilities have to take risks. I am glad you are a good mother.

Posted Mon, Sep 8, 1:06 a.m. Inappropriate

RE: Palin perspective - from an Alaskan Conservative: Bob, Sarah Palin is not selling gas, she is trying to get a pipeline built so the owners of the gas can get it to the market where it can be sold. The owners of the gas, I would imagine, will sell it to the highest bidder. Does that sound reasonable Bob, or was that not in your econ 101 play book. Bob you should get out more, get your head out of that Valdez fog, if you even know where Valdez is, and find out what is really going on in Alaska. You also might find out why Sarah Palin is so popular in Alaska. She has done so many good things for this state, if you actually were in this state, you would be bound to trip over at least a half dozen or so without even trying. You might also read AGIA so when you write things about the Trans Canada Gas Line, you can be sure to get your statements correct, or at least as close to the facts as a good Liberal knows how to get. Oh and by the way, I believe I saw Walter Hickle, at the Republican Convention, applauding Sarah Palin. Oh and , one more time, the 500 million is seed money to grow Alaska jobs. Ta Ta Goober Peas.

Posted Mon, Sep 8, 7:16 a.m. Inappropriate

A Different ALASKAN'S View....: Comment by Sid8idAK
August 29th, 2008 at 8:07 pm
After living in MN, CO, CA - I am an Alaska resident… SO WOW!!!
Get ready: this is a "REAL CHANGE" V.P. All of you who doubt Governor Sara Palin's experience??
Well, this lady demands respect!!!! ALL WOMEN SHOULD BE PROUD!!! Libs or Cons,
she is a no-nonsense administrator who has battled corruption in the Republican party as well as others..
so Obama democrats what are your talking points now??? huh??? Palin as VP just pisses you off!!! cause when you add up both McCain's and Palin's records THAT IS WHAT AMERICA wants!!!,
The Dem boys club (Kerry, Kennedy, Biden, Dean, and the DNC) didn't want Hillary running the Democratic Party….CAN YOU SAY "OOPS"?!?

MCCAIN/PALIN will take down NoBama/Biden like a moose in America's headlights! The Democrats' Chair Howard Dean's acting like "Bullwinkle" to undecided America's "Rocky" (old squirrel and moose cartoon). NOW after a good DNC Convention, Howard's trying to pull a rabbit out of his hat, asking "Hey, Rocky, watch me pull a rabbit out of a hat!" "AGAIN?" America asks, but instead, famously ("ROOOAAAARRRR") Dean and the Democrat good ole boys find a lioness!!!

Good Luck DEMOCRATS.....CHECK & Mate in 67 days!!!!
TGBTG

Posted Mon, Sep 8, 7:17 a.m. Inappropriate

Another Alaskan weighs in...: Comment by Joseph Seibert
August 29th, 2008 at 6:31 pm
I'm an Alaskan Independent who has actually met Sarah Palin, before and after she became our Governor. I think a lot of folks will be in for a shock when they get to know her during this election process. She has more integrity, less ego and is a harder worker than any public servant than I've ever met. She tackles the tough problems and uses a common sense approach. She lets you know what she thinks and doesn't spin facts to her advantage. In the two years she's been our Governor she hasn't lost sight of the fact that she was elected to serve the people.
I was leaning towards voting for O'Bama but I think that the team of McCain/Palin offers more chance for change. Yes, they can!
TGBTG

Posted Mon, Sep 8, 7:26 a.m. Inappropriate

MICHAEL Moore?: I think you meant MICHAEL Moore, not Roger, the actor - yes?

TGBTG

Posted Mon, Sep 8, 7:28 a.m. Inappropriate

Moore = Michael, not Roger: Posted by: Jim Ingram on Sep 7, 2008 7:29 AM
I am not questioning that the email was written. I'm questioning the embittered, jealous and angry tone of her "memo". She simply hates Palin and is far from objective.

Saying it is real and "I saw it on NPR" is bogus. NPR is in the same class as NBC and the NY Times and possibly worse when it comes to impartiality.

This woman sounds like a female Roger Moore.
YOU MUST MEAN MICHAEL Moore, not the actor, Roger.
TGBTG

Posted Mon, Sep 8, 9:06 a.m. Inappropriate

Alaska AGIA: North,

You're right, Sarah won't sell Alaska's percentage of Gas in a pipeline like Jay Hammond set up Alaska to sell a per cent of Alaska Crude Oil any time soon. Furthermore Alaska will never see any transportation fees for transporting gas in a pipeline - Sarah made sure of that - hail AGIA !

The Producers signed something called a lease with the State of Alaska for rights to extract and sell gas that belongs to Alaska - Owners don't normally sign leases with themselves. So your statement about the Owners selling gas to the highest bidder is inaccurate unless of course you are referring to Alaska selling any of it's agreed upon percentage which will have to wait upon the perogative of the Producers and how much more Crude Oil reservoir enhancement economics they need to exploit with Alaskan gas. They have had thirty years to get it right - so you think they might need another thirty - check in with Exxon and the rest of the Producers and lastly check in with Trans-Canada (when they get the OK from Exxon) for the answer to that one. Further your statement that the "Owners" will sell to the highest bidder is false otherwise Exxon would be finding a way to move Alaskan gas to Asia - (something about the internal economics of a giant multi-national will help you understand that one).

As far as benefit to Alaskans - an all Alaskan line would have the same economic benefit for Alaskan workers as the Trans-Canada line - only sooner (try compound interest and the time value of money). The big difference is in the transportation fees, the Asian market multiplier, the benefit of spur lines to Western Alaskan villages, timing and simply control over a very valuable resource, and let's not forget the Permanent Fund. Sorry, an all Alaskan line probably wouldn't get oil to the Tar Sands - Exxon(Esso) would have to settle for 20 billion in profit this quarter instead of 21 billion.

So yes, when it's all said and done, sad to say, Sarah did indeed fail Econ 101 -to the tune of billions for the people of Alaska and their government.

Let's see - she builds Sports complexes instead of sanitary sewer projects, she
takes control of Alaskan Gas transportaion out of the hands of the people of Alaska as represented by their government and in effect, hands it back to the producers who have balked at a gas pipeline for over 30 years and broken agreements with the State to develop their leases and we are told how much good she has done for us and that we need to get our head out of the fog and enjoy the 30 second sound bites, her rousing speeches that tout her own "ability" to deal with the big Boys, and finally let's not forget the photo ops.

Sarah Palin, appears to be a fine, fit, respectable mother of five and a loving and devoted wife and mother - someone who loves and appreciates the great Alaskan outdoors and a hard working individual, but that does not qualify her to lead us out of the worst economic mess the United States has ever seen.

Do her a favor and in Nov. do not turn her over to the dogs - she is in way over her head - her ambition puts her in a place of peril for her and for us.

Her photo ops are being used to prop up a failed Republican Party that has had control of the Executive and Legislative branches for a long time and has effectively failed our people. She is being used in a very shallow attempt to "prove" to the American people that they are worthy of our trust.

If there is any hope for Sarah, let her return to her Alaska and embark on making the best of the situation that she can in the time she has left as Governor and then return to her home in Wasilla and enjoy the State that I sincerely believes she loves. I believe she has done the best she is capable of doing - she just needs to align her sights with her capabilities and she will be fine.

Posted Mon, Sep 8, 9:16 a.m. Inappropriate

RE: Palin????: Dear Mr. BC Coggins:

I posted a largely pro-Palin comment that only deviates in that I acknowledge not knowing how she concluded to run for VP in light of her daughter's preganancy (by the way, I bet < 100 people truly KNOW how she marched through that decision), and you call me sexist, leftist, and a parisan hack. After quite a bit of laughter (for I'm conservative and very much pro women -- and for the record, I love Paris but not French politics), I'm struck at how your comments emulatate extremist politics that both candidates stand against. Why call me names? That's unnecessary. Equally important, if you seek for others to vote for your candidate, why would any rationale person disinfranchise another possible supporter? Fortunately, Sen. McCain & Gov. Palin are setting a better example than that, which makes them worthy candidates...
gym

Posted Mon, Sep 8, 11:38 a.m. Inappropriate

The trught about Sen. Obama and Mr. Ayers: Oh sure. Sen. Obama was associated with Ayers. I believe he was every bit of 8 years old when Ayers was doing his thing. If you would really read, those two, a couple of ministers, a few committee people and a couple of politicians were all on a Board together. Mr. Ayers is now a professor in a college. P-L-E-A-S-E, be for real and get a life. Now, you know you never did, don't and never will want Sen. Obama as your president. So any kind of mess (I'll keep it clean) is stirred up about the Sen., you and others like you including self righteous Hannity would jump all on it. Get over it. This country is changing rather you and people like you are willing for the change. This country is beginning to become a land of opportunity for ALL HUMAN BEINGS, even people like Sen. Obama. AND, if he doesn't win this election (which I pray he will) there will definitely be another African American man or woman who will be coming up behind him.

Reenie

Posted Mon, Sep 8, 11:39 a.m. Inappropriate

RE: Alaska AGIA: First off Bob, I am glad you agree that I am right and you are wrong. We are making some progress here. Bob, think about the other end of the pipeline, where the gas comes out, do you think the producers are going to be just giving the gas away ? Lets see, your econ 101 playbook says, spend billions of dollars on leases, infrastructure, production, and transportation to get the gas to market and then, just give it away. It sounds to me like you must have mistaken a left wing, pipe dream, movie script for a Economy 101 book.

As you stated, Alaska and most of it's politicians of the past 30 years have been trying to get a pipeline going. Sarah got it going in 2 years. It looks to me like the point has to go to Sarah.

You keep talking about spur lines. Do the words Take Off Points mean any thing to you? Read AGIA, you might learn something.

You are correct, Sarah Palin is a fine, fit, respectable mother, and a great Governor to boot. Sarah is going to make a wonderful VP. And she very well could be your President one day.

Bob, you may be able to fool people that don"t have a clue as to what Alaska is about, and those that don't even know that Alaska is a part of the USA or that you don' have to go "over the water" to get here, but Bob, I have lived in Alaska for almost 40 years. I don't have the qualities to be Governor, not even close, but I do have the qualities to recognize BS when I hear or read it, Bob you are full of it. North

Posted Mon, Sep 8, 12:05 p.m. Inappropriate

Kool aid drinker: Actually, I consider myself a wine drinker and a "Moderate". I did not say the reports from the National Enquirer were true about Palin, but merely asking if anyone out there knew anything about the rumors. I guess not. Normally I would not even listen to the National Enquirer, but hey they did catch John Edwards. The hypocrites are the Republicans for sure, as both Clinton and Edwards have been ridiculed for their affairs, while it is okay for McCain. Sounds like a double standard to me.

Posted Mon, Sep 8, 12:21 p.m. Inappropriate

RE: Be very afraid of Sarah Palin: I could not agree more! As a woman I fear for our country if McCain/Palin win in Nov. Separation of Church and State is the way our "Founding Fathers" set up our country over 200 years ago, and it needs to remain that way. Making important political decisions for our country based on religious beliefs is scary and wrong! I think McCain lacked reason and judgement by allowing whomever behind the scenes convinced him to pick Palin as a running mate.

Posted Mon, Sep 8, 12:22 p.m. Inappropriate

What books did Sarah Palin try to ban?: I keep hearing all these reports about Sarah Palin trying to ban some books. Does anyone know what the books were? Thanks, Alan.

ukantic

Posted Mon, Sep 8, 1:27 p.m. Inappropriate

JAILBAIT: I know a family in Texas whose 18 year old son went to PRISON for 5 years for having CONSENTUAL SEX with a 16 year old....even the girl's Mother testified for him to be set free. But the law said he was a PEDOPHILE!!! Apparently no such law in Alaska????

Posted Mon, Sep 8, 2:16 p.m. Inappropriate

Just wondering: If anyone else thinks Ms. Kilkenny's expose' would not have been more admirable had she done it when it might have been beneficial to her community. Perhaps she's as self serving as she describes Gov Palin to be.

Wondering

Posted Mon, Sep 8, 3:06 p.m. Inappropriate

RE: a question for Ms. Kilkenny: OOps, I posted by reply in the wrong place, sorry. BUT I actually consider myself a wine drinker and a "Moderate". I just wanted to know if anyone knew anything about the National Enquirer article about her cheating on her husband. I guess not. I really do not care who sleeps with whom, but she needs to be held to the same standards and the Democrats; Bill Clinton and John Edwards were shellacked for their affairs, so if Palin had one with her husband's business partner then she too should be treated the same way, especially because she is running on a platform of high moral standards and family values and a holier than thou attitude. I guess we will see if there is anything to these claims as I am sure the National Enquirer will keep the public imformed on what they find out.

Posted Mon, Sep 8, 3:15 p.m. Inappropriate

RE: Just wondering: Maybe Ms. Kilkenny did tell others in the community what she though when Palin was running for Governor and since Alaska is a state with a very small population that it did not hit the national media, and hence we did not hear about it? Also, I think it is a bit more important to tell what you know about a candidate when someone is trying to get the #2 position in the country over Governor of a state that is #47 in popluation. Maybe Ms. Kilkenny just said, enough is enough!

Posted Mon, Sep 8, 5:03 p.m. Inappropriate

RE: Palin????: I'm a single dad who gave up his dream to assure my child had everything he needed, but the most important thing I can give him is my time. I couldn't put him down for the first two years of his life - he's too big to pick up now, even though I want to. I have to tell you that I don't regret a moment of it. My relationship with him was forged during the years when so much of a child's development occurs - the first two years. Now, having said that, many arguments can be made either way. That's not the real issue. The real issue is her ACTUAL record. She is no maverick. When the truth comes out, such as the information in this email, we'll all know what she's about. I've done a lot of research and, frankly, if I had no idea who she was, but looked at the record alone, there's no way I'd trust her with the direction of the country. Let's not forget that she's 2ND IN LINE...for the PRESIDENCY OF THE UNITED STATES. And, by the way...a month ago she said (on video) that she didn't even know what the VP did! Her ultimate dream was not the VP. And if you want to talk about what's best for her child...she's a governor, for God's sake! They make plenty of money! What else does one really need? If she's SO concerned about the children, stay in Alaska and reform education. And...I don't like anyone who runs over people, intimidates them, etc. She lied within 3 minutes of her first speech! I just don't see the attraction, other than the possibility that McCain thinks she's cute.

stevea66

Posted Mon, Sep 8, 5:20 p.m. Inappropriate

RE: Thank you!: Obama's association with Ayers was simple, short-lived, and he has spoken to it already. The issues coming up about Palin point to a PATTERN over many years. She hasn't spoken to any of it. She continues to spout the same exact words over and over again, not caring that the truth is twisted. For a religious person, it's shocking. I guess, in a way, it's like how they spouted "Obama is a muslim" and FOX 'accidentally' put "Hussein" on the screen a few times. If it's said enough, people will believe it's true. And, many in Alaska don't want to say a thing because she tends to take revenge on those who disagree with her. What PATTERN of behavior have we seen in Obama, who, by the way, was VETTED for 16 months!! Savagely, sometimes. It took only a few days for the crap to fly about Palin. If very, very, old news (and sketchy at that) is all you have to attack Obama with, well good luck. We're just beginning to get the truth about Palin and this tactic (choosing her) is an insult and a ploy and it won't work. If it does, then the statistics about America's education system and its failures must be true because we're even dumber than many think.

stevea66

Posted Mon, Sep 8, 5:22 p.m. Inappropriate

RE: A Political Agenda Poorly Disguised: What research have you done that gives you the right to claim this email is bogus? (pause) I thought so.

stevea66

Posted Mon, Sep 8, 5:26 p.m. Inappropriate

RE: Just wondering: We all know what it's like to face injustice and keep our mouths shut. Some of us fear losing our jobs because there aren't that many good ones available these days. I live in Tucson (population 100,000 more than Alaska). Word travels fast here. Whatever her reasons, I applaud it. Thank God someone's saying what many of us with intuition were thinking.

stevea66

Posted Mon, Sep 8, 5:28 p.m. Inappropriate

What books could a Wasilla library have that need to be banned?: This issue alone should tell us something about Palin's extreme views. I doubt they even had Harlequin Romances in that library!

stevea66

Posted Mon, Sep 8, 7:13 p.m. Inappropriate

personal opinion vs. facts: I love to get a feel for different perspectives...while looking at the big picture (you know, hearing as many viewpoints as possible before coming to a hopefully accurate conclusion about someone) This letter written by Kilkenny looks legit, well written..and she is entitled to her opinions, for sure. But, PERSONAL OPINIONS (*perhaps* by someone w/ axes to grind - who knows) have little validity and are not the same as FACTS. If all Anne claims to be true about Sarah's attitude/ record, it seems very unlikely that she would hold such a consistent outstanding approval rating in the state of AK - 86%!! Some polls say closer to 90. Also, just before I read this letter - and since - I've listened to quite a few of Sarah's friends, colleagues, co-workers, etc. interviewed (one friend whom she's known since 2nd grade, another close friend, the mayor of her hometown, the Head of the Nat'l Guard, the former Press Sec. of AK, etc.) and every single one of them just rave about her!! I'm sure she's not perfect by any standard but who is? Personally, I find her incredibly refreshing, relatable, and quite frankly, impressive. Down-to-earth...she walks the talk. Simple yet profound. I can understand why the libs are so clearly threatened by her =) People love her.

Posted Mon, Sep 8, 7:51 p.m. Inappropriate

RE: A Different ALASKAN'S View....: Nice post. I'm sure it will be an interesting campaign season as Ms. Palin is allowed to open her mouth and speak freely about the things she knows nothing about. I've never looked as the VP spot as the opportune moment for OJT! Really, I feel sorry for her. I hope she's a quick study because so far she's admitted to not knowing much about Iraq ("I've been so focused on state government, I haven't really focused much on the war in Iraq. I heard on the news about the new deployments, and while I support our president, Condoleezza Rice and the administration, I want to know that we have an exit plan in place; I want assurances that we are doing all we can to keep our troops safe." Earlier this year, she said she hoped the Iraq war was "a task that is from God.") Yikes! She also made a revealing blunder when she stated that the lending giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac had "gotten too big and too expensive to the taxpayers." The companies, as McClatchy reported, "aren't taxpayer funded but operate as private companies." Oops a daisy! And I'm sure this is just the beginning. Did someone forget to tell her not to freelance! As for the bold assertion that she said, "Thanks but no thanks" to that bridge, the part they keep leaving out is that the Congress had said, "Sorry, no more money." The project was already losing popularity in the great state of Alaska. Again, she's moved toward a popular position because what she does know is how to win a popularity contest. I hope someone's there to protect her for the duration of her stint as the VP. I think it will be a blood letting. I mean I can't imagine having to hide my pregnancy from my parents, children and the public for fear of scrutiny of being a pregnant Gov with a down syndrome baby in utero. Really, that is gut wrenching and sad. She's got a great, tough girl veneer, but to be crying sexism in the media this early in the game is totally ridiculous and telling. They've been up Hilary's back side with a frosty speculum for what feels like an eternity. Yes, she's called BS on some of the nonsense, but if you're really looking for a tough woman, Sarah should take a lesson from the most durable woman in politics. Who also happens to have an education, a brain, and the experience to back up the talk.
Incidentally, she lost a primary. The American Democrats selected Obama. That's the democratic process. Now you wouldn't be suggesting that our democratic process is corrupted???
I'm really happy that Ms. Palin has been a success up in Alaska. I love successful women who rise to the top on their own merits. I just think this young lady needs a bit more seasoning before you throw her into the briar patch. I know John has good genes and all, but Holy Crap, is Sarah really ready to lead this country. Well maybe after she gets the short course on world affairs, domestic policy and the economy. I loved Hilary's quote today. And I paraphrase- Sending the Republicans in to fix all this country's problems is like asking the iceberg to save the Titanic! Mr. 90% is not going to turn this country around like we need. The only thing that's going to "Change" with McCain are the bed sheets in the White House. I appreciate the dedication of the Rep "Base", but I think this sensational swell will become more realistic when the debates start and Sarah is allowed to wean herself from McCain's side and actually speak. If the American people vote them into office, well then, I guess the US of A will get what it deserves. That's why I love this country and the democratic process.
firemom

Posted Mon, Sep 8, 7:56 p.m. Inappropriate

Palin's a Narcissistic Opportunistic Bully - Just What the GOP finds plays to their Base: Regarding Sarah Palin, why is the nation so dazzled with such a self-righteous, chauvinistic governor cast apparently from the mold we hoped had been broken after the likes of Spiro Agnew? Instead, we should be disturbed and repelled by the image of a mother, smirking and gleeful as her son is about to be deployed to Iraq.
Since the child of a vice president or president brings too great a risk to place in a combat setting, a cynic might suggest that her career move represented a way for her to confer protection to her son. However, I am even more disturbed that her reaction might be genuine.
The lasting image of modern terror - a parent stridently honoring their childs' death as a martyr - sends chills through American souls, yet how is this so different from Palin's strange and unsettling display broadcast to millions?
Do we want a vice president, and by inference then president, who is either so oblivious, or disconnected from reality, that the prospect of personal loss is lacking? Should not any caring, thinking parent instead be at least somber, serious, and respectful of the circumstances of fate unfolding ahead for their loved one?
In our nation's history, no leader of worth has ever displayed anything other than remorse or regret for the lives sacrificed in war. Many (even, without fanfare, Joe Biden) have sent their own into battle, without special advantages, not knowing if and when they would be seen again; certainly, no leader has ever appeared glib, or smug, or cavalier, or gleeful, at the time.
Until now.
We should fear anyone who is not only willing, but apparently eager, to send anyone into a war, much less their own flesh and blood.

Since Sept 11, 2001, we have seen a rise in strident, mindless militarism disguised as patriotism. Perhaps to compensate for the disrespect given to Viet Nam vets, we dare not speak ill of any soldier today.
Yet, while the Right continues to rail against the "elitist" Left, in many ways the insular universe of today's volunteer military represents the only true elitist realm remaining in the United States. The talented can always rise in academic circles, but the military requires initiation, ritual passage rites, out of public scrutiny.
The cult and culture of combat glorifies and elevates the status of the soldier, and denigrates the weakness and cowardice of mere civilians (especially the damn pansy Liberals), who dont appreciate the soldier's sacrifices. Valor is worshipped and heroism is measured not in lives saved or bettered, but in masochistic tales of survival and violence. In a subtle, unsettling shift, often the strongest allegiance is not to country, but to ones own comrades. The twisted tone of most pro-Palin rhetoric echoes this Bullying theme: kick an ass, show them, we're the Real tough guys. Funny thing though - the bravest are those who can STOP fights, not those who start them. Oh yeah, I'm sorry, right, you and Sarah will kick my ass for writing this.
Constant fear-mongering and jingoism is rampant, even as the Iraq war and Twin Tower total deaths total 1/10 that of Viet Nam, or 1/5 of many one day battles in the Civil War.
Alaska seems to have even a higher percentage of bullies than the lower 48.
The notion that the oil there is "theirs" which means suck the earth dry, sell to the highest bidder, then... uh, well...
How exactly does that fit in with your own GOP's "energy independence," if it's
not coming South?
Palin's bizarre choices, inept and laughable motherly values education success, not to mention the well-hidden racist jokes that will NEVER see the light for fear of reprisals, only demonstrate that the CHOICES are available to the privileged like her, not to the hapless others who will get to watch the country go bankrupt filling the coffers of the Mega-wealthy GOP cronies.
McCain/Palin : "An Echo, Not a Choice"

Posted Mon, Sep 8, 8:10 p.m. Inappropriate

RE: Alaska AGIA: I have an idea. Let's just keep that toxic crap in the ground and focus on natural gas and alternative, renewable fuels so there's an Alaska for everyone to enjoy in the future. I know it seems like a big place, but the planet it smaller than we think, and it's getting small. Be nice!

firemom

Posted Mon, Sep 8, 8:41 p.m. Inappropriate

RE: Palin's a Narcissistic Opportunistic Bully - Just What the GOP finds plays to their Base: "We have thought of peace as passive and war as the active way of living. The opposite is true.

War is not the most strenuous life. It is a kind of rest cure compared to the task of reconciling our differences.

From war to peace is not from the strenuous to the easy existence. it is from the futile to the effective, form the stagnant to the active, from the destructive to the creative way of life...

The work will be regenerated by the people who rise above these passive ways and heroically seek by what ever hardship, by whatever toil, the methods by which people can agree."

Mary Parker Follett
firemom

Posted Mon, Sep 8, 9:23 p.m. Inappropriate

RE: Doesn't add up: Ms. Kilkenny states 'what Sarah did' involving her. It was simply the bookbanning incident, in which she backed up the librarian who refused to step down when Sarah wanted her to.

If this is cattiness, I'm wondering what you think of all the anti-Obama false stories out there that so many good, honest voters have believed in wholeheartedly just because someone sent them an email fwd. I honestly don't get any malice whatsoever in this, however. In fact, I think the writer shows honest respect for Sarah's skills, not hatred. The tone is certainly not as you say; the writer actually gives caveats to her information. Not only this--this was not written as an article. It was written for friends of hers. I find it amusing that a number of posters have accused her of being in cahoots with the evil Obama-Biden people. O-kayyyy.... now there's something that doesn't sound very verifiable.

I would also like to know what points here sound contradictory to you. And, as someone has already stated, a great deal of this info can, in fact, be verified. Nothing that smacks of rumors.
exs

Posted Mon, Sep 8, 9:30 p.m. Inappropriate

RE: Thanks so much!: You know, b, while you're absolutely entitled to your opinion (that none of this can be true because it isn't all positive and surely thus must be a conspiracy that Obama used bribery to concoct), those who disagree with you also have the right, and I also am blown away by the ignorance of so many people in this country. And very scared as I hear people parrot things they heard on Sean Hannity and hang on his every word without doing any research on their own. Just because some of us find this article very interesting doesn't mean that we aren't also listening to Palin's story or the conservative narrative.

Just because we don't agree with you doesn't mean that we are fair-minded and take what we read with a grain of salt until verified. I would understand your spouting off if this were an article about Bristol's baby or Sarah's baby, but you seem to be spending a lot of time judging and insulting those who don't think this sounds like propoganda. Couldn't you try to have a little more respect for your fellow Americans who don't think the same way as you do? I mean, don't you want others to respect you?
exs

Posted Mon, Sep 8, 9:35 p.m. Inappropriate

RE: Classic Disinformation: FYI, I often make up a new document before I forward something with html or whatever on it. Just because you saw a different name than the author doesn't mean that Caroline C is the real author!

I really don't see why this article is so threatening that you and others are denouncing it as propaganda; it's not hard to check out. If only so many people had the skepticism to check out all the false Obama email fwds going around.
exs

Posted Mon, Sep 8, 10:06 p.m. Inappropriate

RE: personal opinion vs. facts: First you say:

But, PERSONAL OPINIONS (*perhaps* by someone w/ axes to grind - who knows) have little validity and are not the same as FACTS.

Then you say:

Also, just before I read this letter - and since - I've listened to quite a few of Sarah's friends, colleagues, co-workers, etc. interviewed (one friend whom she's known since 2nd grade, another close friend, the mayor of her hometown, the Head of the Nat'l Guard, the former Press Sec. of AK, etc.) and every single one of them just rave about her!!

So which is it? Or is it only 'PERSONAL OPINIONS' that reinforce your preconception that matter?
RobC

Posted Mon, Sep 8, 10:09 p.m. Inappropriate

RE: Moore = Michael, not Roger: If at first you don't succeed, try, try again:

This woman sounds like a female Roger Moore.
YOU MUST MEAN MICHAEL Moore, not the actor, Roger.


A useless comment the first time you said, doubly so the second.
RobC

Posted Mon, Sep 8, 10:14 p.m. Inappropriate

RE: esponse to Firedad: What an odd thing to say:

Sorry you're so unhappy with Sarah Palin. You probably know her approval rating is 86% in Alaska and 75% among Democrats in Alaska. You seem to be in the minority of people unhappy with Governor Palin's performance. Kind of makes your comments suspect.

Apparently having a differing opinion immediately calls into question the validity of your position in Mr. Ingram's opinion. How convenient.
RobC

Posted Mon, Sep 8, 10:15 p.m. Inappropriate

RE: You can fool some of the people...: aceroinix--FYI, that quote has also been attributed to P.T. Barnum of Barnum & Bailey Circus (also with no documented proof, as is the myth that it originated with Lincoln), as well as a guy whose name sounds like "Spiffy" and was [ironically!] the Librarian of Congress during Lincoln's time.

Why is this so often wrongly attributed to Lincoln? Repetition. Kinda like that quote everyone thinks was Nelson Mandela's about being great because you are God's awesome child (I wish it was b/c it would be more poignant) that actually belonged to Marianne Williamson, a new age writer.

There ya go.
exs

Posted Mon, Sep 8, 10:32 p.m. Inappropriate

finally the truth: it was very refreshing to read the truth about sarah palin. she was made out to be the greatest thing since sliced bread. i think someone who is from the town where she was mayor and who knows her personally can give us a clear picture of her. thanks for the truth

katro50

Posted Mon, Sep 8, 11:09 p.m. Inappropriate

RE: Palin's a Narcissistic Opportunistic Bully - Just What the GOP finds plays to their Base: Thanks scamtracker for your post. I enjoyed reading it.

I work with veterans and I remember when we were first going into Iraq I asked many of the guys what they thought of the impending war. Strangely every single one of them was against it. These were guys that had seen battle and to a man they said just about the same thing... "I don't think we should be going there. It's not going to do any good. I think the politicians (Bush et al) have it wrong." Etc. etc. I remember thinking that there was such a disconnect between what "my" veterans were saying and what I was hearing from Bush and the Republican cronies. I wish I had gone out and marched against the war back then. I sat pretty silent. My bad.

Well, I'm feeling the same things now about Palin as potential VP. I don't think she's the right pick at all. No gravitas. I can't feel respect for her. I actually don't think she's a very good mother either. I can't believe a good mother would put the job of VP above caring for her newborn (particularly with Downs). I feel as if she's not even in control of her own body. Most women of her age, with four children already and with high political aspirations would prevent pregnancy. I realize that accidents happen, but a little preparation goes a long way in preventing pregnancy! Does she not believe in birth control?

And she's not there for her pregnant young teenager. Why for the love of God would she subject a young teen and the young man involved to national and international scrutiny and embarrassment. I think that is so emotionally damaging. Again, I can't believe a truly good (selfless) mother would do any of these things. She's only in her 40's. She could have waited and stepped into the national limelight later.

I'm also getting a little sick of hearing about Alaskans and what they think of their darling little barracuda. Most of them seem to just love the little lady because they know she'll get them more pork like she did when she was mayor of that dinky town.

Alaskans don't pay state income tax, they don't pay a sales tax and they each get a couple of thousand dollars a piece of my tax money so that they can continue to live up there. Meanwhile their economy is doing pretty well, thank you very much, because of oil revenues. There are plenty of poor people in the lower 48 who would love some of those tax dollars to go to them instead of the Alaskans. So I don't want to hear from another cry baby Alaskan and I certainly don't want to be represented by their ignorant governor. We should have had a more reasonable choice like Tom Ridge for VP instead of this Bozo. This is McCain's bad.

Posted Tue, Sep 9, 3:51 a.m. Inappropriate

Sarah's Pipeline: North,

Sarah "got" us a pipeline in two years ? Oh really - in your context Frank Murkowski was also ready to "give" us a pipeline - you attribute to Sarah more credit than she deserves. The market drove gas prices to the point that it would have been criminal for Alaska not to force the gas pipeline issue. Sarah just happened to be there when that happened. Kind of like the speech she gave yesterday touting her budget surpluses in Alaska - again - more credit than is deserved - and again nothing short of criminal if she did not have a surplus with Crude oil prices above $100./bbl.

If Sarah makes it to Washington - she'll have a wake up call - and if she gets returned to Juneau - same result - either way - good outcome for Sarah if she handles it right.

Posted Tue, Sep 9, 6:23 a.m. Inappropriate

Mother's duty: Sarah Palin knew better. She failed to protect her daughter.
Mrs. Palin, at age 44, had the duty to advise, counsel, instruct her adolescent daughter on how to avoid pregnancy.
We are a lifetime away from the fantasy-time when we thought/dreamed prayer could keep a high school girls knees together.

Posted Tue, Sep 9, 10:30 a.m. Inappropriate

RE: Forward this to everyone you know: From a Texan who has seen the world and our vast country. I agree send this to everyone you know and let them decide. Also, I agree with the author, Anne Kilkenny that being a housewife who does not have to be concerned about losing the job working for someone else can give you the confidence to speak truth to power, and ask questions of those in office or seeking office. More Americans need to act like great Americans and question the proposals and work of others who bring harm to the less fortunate and our natural world. It is time for us to take back our government and our economy so that our children and grandchildren have a livable world. And that includes saving a livable place for the canaries in the coal mine; the polar bears, wolves, birds, lizards, salmon and insects! Anne Dyson Colleyville, Texas

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Posted Tue, Sep 9, 10:37 a.m. Inappropriate

RE: Seeing it on NPR doesn't make the contents of the email any more credible: Did you ever think that she is a concerned citizen who has watched this person misuse her position, run enormous debt in a small town, ignore the needs of the people she was elected to serve. I mean really, a town of 5 to 7 thousand depending on where and when you get your numbers cannot afford a 22 million dollar debt and surely a water treatment plant would have been a better choice than a 15 million dollar sports complex.
Saying she was angry is right and any true citizen should be angry when they are wittness to misuse and abuse of public trust and funds. I am angry with the abuse of power, misuse of public money, lying and decietful nature of this present presidential adminstration as are a great majority of the American public.
Check the facts yourself I have talked with friends in Wasilla who corroborate the facts discussed in the e-mail. It does seem that there is more than one Alaskan who isn't a fan of the Palin. Trying to fire a librairian because of books she didn't approve of, firing a state police official because he wouldn't to her bidding, bowing to big oil, increasing taxes on those least able to afford them and using the Bush tactic of massive vote buying while running up state and national debt. Where will it stop?
As for the Roger Moore comment didn't he play 007 in the movies? Did you mean Michael Moore? Fharenheit9/11, Dude Where's My Country.ect... Have you ever checked his facts? As hard as it is to admit he is very thorough and at the very least thought provoking.
There are many out there who want to say this whole thing is cooked up by the Vile ,yellow bellied, Liberal, Communistic, Democrates, in case you haven't noticed we don't operate that way, the GOP has the corner on character assignation, lies and innuendo
jeanne01

Posted Tue, Sep 9, 12:27 p.m. Inappropriate

RE: Mother's duty: I totally agree with lettydigmon on this issue, Palin wants no sex education taught in schools so she must not discuss it with her daughter either as she ends up pregnant and still in high school. The bull about "they were planning to get married anyway, so the baby is a bonus", a quote from the boys mother is such a lie. Why would any parent want their child getting married without even finishing high school if they had the choice? I am sure Levi (the kid that got the daughter pregnant) is so excited about getting married and having a baby at 18, just what every boy wants! I am sure it will be a shotgun wedding...if McCain/Palin don't win the election (one can only hope!), I bet they don't end up getting married at all.

Posted Tue, Sep 9, 1:03 p.m. Inappropriate

RE: Sarah's Pipeline: Bob, as I recall, Governor Murkowski's plan did not make it through the legislature, Governor Palin's did.

To assert that "market conditions' forced Governor Palin's success is a K4 move, if market conditions were so great, you would think that the gas owners would have been breaking their necks to get a pipeline built. They did not make a move to start a pipeline until Governor Palin's "actions" and leadership forced them to.

I think you probably forgot that Governor Palin pushed legislation through the legislature that changed the oil tax structure from the one that was passed by the Good Old Boys of the "CBC Club' to a tax that was more fair and equatable for the people of the Great State Of Alaska. I think, that change, has a lot to do with our current budget surplus. ( remember, Sarah did it with the help of the Legislature.)


You are correct, there will be a wake up call when Governor Palin goes to Washington, it want be Sarah getting it, she is, "wide awake", it will be Washington DC that is going to, "get it".


Keep trying Bob, North.

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Posted Tue, Sep 9, 3:09 p.m. Inappropriate

It smells: Sorry. I don't believe a word. Where are your stories about Omama anyway??? Shame on you crosscut!!

Ebruno

Posted Tue, Sep 9, 3:14 p.m. Inappropriate

RE: Truth more damaging: I'm so glad someone else gets flashes of Drop Dead Gorgeous when hearing Palin speak... She is the beauty queen of the Republican party, going for the crown no matter what it takes.

darlanow

Posted Tue, Sep 9, 5:13 p.m. Inappropriate

RE: A Political Agenda Poorly Disguised: You have offered no facts in support of your criticisms.
Your comment reflects the kind of heated, emotional reaction, devoid of any verifiable fact, that has divided the country.
We would all benefit from the truth about Gov Palin and any details that can be verified about this previously who was a total unknown two weeks ago.
It is noteworthy that investigative journalists, the news media, and the press has already begun to confirm much of the contents Anne Kilkenney's letter. Ms Kilkenney is courageous to speak out given the toxic political environment in Alaska.
stmosley

Posted Tue, Sep 9, 9:11 p.m. Inappropriate

Blatantly obvious you need help!: At least you can admit your hatred. You should seek counceling to get over your obvious Hatred problem. Anyone who has the time to attend City Councel meetings 99% more than anyone else has an ax to grind or nothing better to do. Its pretty obvious if you've hated Sarah since 1996 its an Ax. Whenever a City grows like my City West Fargo North Dakota The budget goes up the expenditures goes up and the revenues go up. Theres holes all over your analysis if you can call it that. The Big Boxes in your town for example as if the City Government located them there. The free market does that. Sarah took a stand opposit you over some library book and and a Librarian and for over 10 years you've been some sort of stalker.

Posted Wed, Sep 10, 7:26 a.m. Inappropriate

This was aimed at the uninformed voters...obviously there are a lot out there: http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_palin.html

*Palin did not cut funding for special needs education in Alaska by 62 percent. She didn't cut it at all. In fact, she tripled per-pupil funding over just three years.

*She did not demand that books be banned from the Wasilla library. Some of the books on a widely circulated list were not even in print at the time. The librarian has said Palin asked a "What if?" question, but the librarian continued in her job through most of Palin's first term.

*She was never a member of the Alaskan Independence Party, a group that wants Alaskans to vote on whether they wish to secede from the United States. She's been registered as a Republican since May 1982.

*Palin never endorsed or supported Pat Buchanan for president. She once wore a Buchanan button as a "courtesy" when he visited Wasilla, but shortly afterward she was appointed to co-chair of the campaign of Steve Forbes in the state.

*Palin has not pushed for teaching creationism in Alaska's schools. She has said that students should be allowed to "debate both sides" of the evolution question, but she also said creationism "doesn't have to be part of the curriculum."

Sources
Sutton, Anne. "Governor signs revamped education package into law." Anchorage Daily News, 28 Mar. 2008.

Holland, Megan. "Intensive needs funding examined." Anchorage Daily News, 12 Jan. 2008.

Cavanagh, Sean. "Alaska Legislators Overhaul Funding." Education Week, 29 Apr. 2008.

Joling, Dan. "Palin has not pushed creation science as governor." The Associated Press, 3 Sept. 2008.

Hayes, Christopher. "Sarah Palin, Buchananite." The Nation "Capitolism" Web site, 29 Aug. 2008.

Palin, Sarah. "Letters from the People." Anchorage Daily News. 26 July 1999; 5B.

The Associated Press: "Forbes sets Alaska leadership team," 7 Aug 1999.

Kizzia, Tom. "'Creation science' enters the race." Anchorage Daily News, 27 Oct. 2006.

Paulson, Michael. "Sarah Palin on faith, life and creation." The Boston Globe, 29 Aug. 2008.

Tapper, Jake. "Another AIP Official Says Palin Was at 1994 Convention." ABCNews.com, 2 Sept. 2008.

Tapper, Jake. "Members of ‘Fringe' Alaskan Independence Party Incorrectly Say Palin Was a Member in 90s." ABCNews.Com, 1Sept. 2008.

Komarnitsky, S.J. "Wasilla Keeps Librarian, But Police Chief Is Out." 1 February 1997. The Anchorage Daily News, 8 Sept. 2008.

Stuart, Paul. "FROM THE ARCHIVE: Palin: Library Censorship Inquiries 'Rhetorical'." 18 December 1996. Mat-Su Valley Frontiersman, 8 Sept. 2008.

White, Rindi. "Palin Asked City Librarian Whether She'd Ban Books." 7 September 2008. The Chicago Tribune, 8 Sept. 2008.
joshs

Posted Wed, Sep 10, 7:28 a.m. Inappropriate

Fact check Obama...: He stuck to the facts, except when he stretched them.

We checked the accuracy of Obama's speech accepting the Democratic nomination, and noted the following:

*Obama said he could "pay for every dime" of his spending and tax cut proposals "by closing corporate loopholes and tax havens." That's wrong - his proposed tax increases on upper-income individuals are key components of paying for his program, as well. And his plan, like McCain's, would leave the U.S. facing big budget deficits, according to independent experts.

*He twisted McCain's words about Afghanistan, saying, "When John McCain said we could just 'muddle through' in Afghanistan, I argued for more resources." Actually, McCain said in 2003 we "may" muddle through, and he recently also called for more troops there.

*He said McCain would fail to lower taxes for 100 million Americans while his own plan would cut taxes for 95 percent of "working" families. But an independent analysis puts the number who would see no benefit from McCain's plan at 66 million and finds that Obama's plan would benefit 81 percent of all households when retirees and those without children are figured in.

*Obama asked why McCain would "define middle-class as someone making under five million dollars a year"? Actually, McCain meant that comment as a joke, getting a laugh and following up by saying, "But seriously ..."

*Obama noted that McCain's health care plan would "tax people's benefits" but didn't say that it also would provide up to a $5,000 tax credit for families.

*He said McCain, far from being a maverick who's "broken with his party," has voted to support Bush policies 90 percent of the time. True enough, but by the same measure Obama has voted with fellow Democrats in the Senate 97 percent of the time.

*Obama said "average family income" went down $2,000 under Bush, which isn't correct. An aide said he was really talking only about "working" families and not retired couples. And - math teachers, please note - he meant median (or midpoint) and not really the mean or average. Median family income actually has inched up slightly under Bush.
joshs

Posted Wed, Sep 10, 9:39 a.m. Inappropriate

What happened to the issues?: I think that it is horrible to attack without giving BOTH sides to an issue.
Wasn't her sisters ex abusive? which is always conduct unbefitting a law officer.
ALASKA polar bears are NOT endangered in numbers.
Paulin is not the first woman to finish an important work-day whilst her water was broke. Why smear her for that? The baby IS hers, and one is silly to infer otherwise.
Her daughter's business is "family" business. She's not required to make a pregnancy "announcement" to you and me.

And get a grip on reality. ALL politicians "bend" the truth. That does not make their lies "pathological". A better word would be "convenient". They all want to play down their blunders, and enhance their accomplishments.

The article above focuses only on a biased view of Palin's work, and mentions no accomplishments at all. And there are many. Therefore the report is slanted.
The "housewife" is angry at Paulin, and has put a spin on her reporting to get revenge for the "librarian" situation. Revenge tastes best when served cold. What was the book anyway? Something akin to the Satanic Verses I believe.
Everyone has an OPINION just like everyone goes to the bathroom everyday.
Margee

Posted Wed, Sep 10, 10:04 a.m. Inappropriate

Just who is this person, Anne Kilkenny, from Wasilla, and has SHE been vetted?: Just who is this person, Anne Kilkenny (from Wasilla) and has SHE been vetted?

We are going to decide our nation's future on the email of a SUBSTITUTE TEACHER? (not even a REAL teacher?)

On what do we base Anne Kilkenny's credibility?

Is she the town frump who bashes every politician?

Or is the media so strapped for information and so hungry for a Palin story that they will print just about anything with Palin's name?

Just curious!

Posted Wed, Sep 10, 12:44 p.m. Inappropriate

List of books Palin tried to have removed: Does anyone know how to find out which books Palin was trying to have removed from her local library? I think that would be very enlightening about her true character. Thanks.

Ahab

Posted Wed, Sep 10, 1:39 p.m. Inappropriate

Let's talk about current experience...: Come on now. Considering the current state of our great nation, how much experience did BUSH have, while he spent the last 8 years driving this country into the ground! At least Obama has a brain and can use it to help dig this country out from the Republican abyss. We could use a little more diplomacy and less "shootin from the hip" politics! Yip yip yooooo.

Agent 99

Posted Wed, Sep 10, 2:45 p.m. Inappropriate

RE: Just who is this person, Anne Kilkenny, from Wasilla, and has SHE been vetted?: I think we need to remember this was an email sent from Ms. Kilkenny to a friend, and it ended up here on this site. She did not mean for it to end up on this site for us all to see and comment on, so why vett her? She is entitled to her opinion, just like all of us are. Just take it at face value, one woman's opinion about another woman and her qualifications to be possibly the next VP. I do think it is an eye opening opinion, however, and a very interesting read.

Posted Wed, Sep 10, 5:28 p.m. Inappropriate

RE: Let's talk about current experience...: I will agree with you that the country is currently hurting. The Republicans messed up their chance to fix this country...however, the Democrats took over in 2006 and nothing has gotten better. In fact, things have gotten worse. Obama is not going to use his "brain" do do anything other than twist his past words and promote his version of "change" which really means, he will change his opinion to appease the demographic of the day.

Drill here, Drill now. Did you see his interview with Bill Oreilly? he still doesn't want to drill in Anwar in Alaska. Has he even been there? He does not know what he is talking about half of the time. He has over 300 advisors... who advise him on what to say. How good could you do your job, if you had 300 advisors?
joshs

Posted Wed, Sep 10, 5:35 p.m. Inappropriate

RE: List of books Palin tried to have removed: Did you hear that some of the books that were listed, were not even published back then? Also, is anyone looking at the Sex education ciriculum that Obama voted for Kindergardeners? Check that out...

Palin Derangement Syndrome strikes again. This time it's hysterical librarians and their readers on the Internet disseminating a bogus list of books Gov. Sarah Palin supposedly banned in 1996. Looks like some of these library people failed reading comprehension. Take a look at the list below and you'll find books Gov. Palin supposedly tried to ban…that hadn't even been published yet. Example: The Harry Potter books, the first of which wasn't published until 1998.

The smear merchants who continue to circulate the list also failed to do a simple Google search, which would have showed them that the bogus Sarah Palin Banned Book List is almost an exact copy-and-paste reproduction of a generic list of "Books Banned at One Time or Another in the United States" that has been floating around the Internet for years. STACLU notes that the official Obama campaign website is also perpetuating the fraud. And it's spread to craigslist, where some unhinged user is posting images likening Palin to Hitler. Here it is again.

The person who first spread the Palin smear is identified as "Andrew Aucoin," a commenter on the blog of librarian Jessamyn West. West has done the right thing in keeping the bogus comment up and pointing out in her main post that "there appears to be no truth to the claim made by the commenter, and no further documentation or support for this has turned up."

It's a fake. Not true. Total B.S. A lie.

If it gets sent to you by a moonbat friend or family member, set ‘em all straight. Fight the smears. They've only just begun.
joshs

Posted Thu, Sep 11, 10:10 a.m. Inappropriate

RE: A Political Agenda Poorly Disguised: "Lowly poor old housewife"? That comment says more about your opinion than anything else you said.

Sandhawk

Posted Thu, Sep 11, 11:25 a.m. Inappropriate

300 Advisors: How smart and ready for the vice presidency is Ms. Palin when her advisors (who knows how many) have to coach her for a couple of weeks before she can answer a single question from the press? Quite an intensive brain washing program!

Why has Ms. Palin been John McCain's good looking conjoined twin on the campaign trail thus far. Is it because she hasn't been coached enough to campaign by herself or because on his own Mr. McCain is having trouble creating enough commotion to wake up a light sleeping new born with sensitive hearing?

I suppose many Republicans believe that Ms. Palin, Mr. McCain and Mr. Bush only have one advisor, God. Apparently God speaks directly to all three of them but in the case of Palin God uses an unrecognizable language.

Posted Thu, Sep 11, 10:46 p.m. Inappropriate

Why don't we hear the real news on TV's ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX?: This information is disturbing to say the least, but what's worse is that it never seems to make it's way to the NEWS on the ABC, NBC, CBS, or FOX networks. 4 years ago the media stopped Dean's campaign cold because of their repeated footage of him yelling so loudly - they never mentioned that the background noise had been taken out - with that background noise Dean was just as loud as he needed to be so he could be heard by the crowd.

It's seems to be a secret to most American's that Big Business MEDIA slants the news for Big Business's bottom line, that it's not giving the people the truth. Unfortunately most Americans believe they are getting honest unbiased news.

Now here we go again, you have great information that the American people should hear, but other than the small minority that read this it will most likely never be seen on the news TV networks or in the widely read newspapers or magazines that the majority of people watch and read - instead American's get fed what the networks only want us to hear. What a shame!!!
dmm

Posted Fri, Sep 12, 9:58 a.m. Inappropriate

RE: Librarians Against Palin: I see now that Obama has drawn Bill Clinton into his campaign team. I heard Obama say that he really admires and values Bill Clinton's expertise and viewpoints, especially on economics. Say what you will about Bill Clinton, he was a fiscal moderate and we even had a budget surplus during his last 3 years in office, the first time since 1949. Obama took a move to the center a few ago and upset some of the more liberal Democrats but they have calmed down now. I see him continuing to slowly move toward the center one step at a time because that is how he will be able to accomplish the really important items on his agenda.

lunarella

Posted Fri, Sep 12, 10:01 a.m. Inappropriate

RE: A Political Agenda Poorly Disguised: Call her. She is listed in Whitepages.com

lunarella

Posted Fri, Sep 12, 4:11 p.m. Inappropriate

RE: Why don't we hear the real news on TV's ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX?: I think Charlie Gibson did an excellent job of asking Palin the tough questions that need to be asked in his interview of Sarah Palin. Palin did a lousy job of answering them, obviously she has been coached by the McCain team. She thinks Iraq is a religious war, how scary is that? Her answer about the conflict between Russia and Gerogia is even scarier, war, war, war. It was embarassing that she did not even know what the Bush Doctrine was - I do because is has been highlighted in the media over the past few years and I am not running for VP. Shame on her for not doing her homework. It just highlights just how unqualified she actually is to be on the Republican ticket.

Posted Sat, Sep 13, 5:41 a.m. Inappropriate

Credibility: Credibility suffers when one makes statements like this:

"Before she became so powerful, very ugly stories circulated around town about shenanigans she pulled to be made point guard on the high school basketball team."

...and also when you write previously oft-cited elsewhere putdown lines like this:

"Some high schools have more students than Wasilla has residents. Many cities have more residents than the state of Alaska."

Guess Wasilla should build classrooms, and Alaska should what, give back its statehood? China has billions more people than we do... are they infinitely wiser?

Finally there is this:

"...she has hated me since..."

This email's portrait seems a bit jaundiced.
Anyone think you can get things done and be elected to office by 'playing nice' with everyone all the time with no 'offense'?

There are some valid points to consider, perhaps, but such a laundry list inevitably looks like 'an ax to grind'. This is -one-side of the story... with 'adjusted' stats and emotion. Shall we now join Matt Damon in dissing the governor as someone with "folksy ways learned at the hockey rink"?
RR

Posted Sat, Sep 13, 9:24 a.m. Inappropriate

Make the raped pay their medical bills: Yikes! Palin supports changes to the investigation process for rape victims. Yep, that's right. The exams that rape victims go through in Wasilla to collect evidence used to be covered by the government. Palin, as mayor, fired police chief Irl Stambaugh and replaced him with Charlie Fannon, who with Palin's knowledge, slashed the budget for the exams and began charging the city's victims of sexual assault. The city budget documents demonstrate Palin read and signed off on the new budget. A year later, alarmed Alaska lawmakers passed legislation outlawing the practice. I'm sorry, she just frightens me. Women's rights are in jeopardy and all we can focus on is that we want ovaries in a higher office. The only thing Palin has in common with Hillary is a chromosome. Other than that, Hilary supporters should be rallying hard behind Obama. M

firemom

Posted Sat, Sep 13, 9:34 a.m. Inappropriate

RE: List of books Palin tried to have removed: Obama's "sex ed" for kindergarteners was designed to help teach young children about inappropriate touching. So as to arm these vulnerable creatures with some guidelines to avoid some pedophile sicko from taking advantage of them. What the hell's the matter with you people. You won't talk about sex with your children and then act all surprised when your kids don't fess up when they've been assaulted by Father So and So, or the kindly 1st grade teacher. Wake up people. You have to talk about sex to your kids. Arm them with everything they'll need to stand up to this messed up world. TEENAGERS HAVE SEX AND SMALL CHILDREN ARE SEXUALLY ASSAULTED REGULARLY IN THIS COUNTRY! You better start taking steps to protect your children and stop living life with your head in the sand!!!! M

firemom

Posted Sat, Sep 13, 9:46 a.m. Inappropriate

RE: esponse to Firedad: Yes, it's it's interesting how simply having a different point of view makes me suspect. I'm just another American citizen voicing my opinion. Does that mean the FBI will be tapping my phone lines now? I am highly suspect, you know. Civil Servant for 14 years, dedicating my life to improving the lives of others. Better keep a close eye on me...

firemom

Posted Sat, Sep 13, 7:35 p.m. Inappropriate

RE: Let's talk about current experience...: Another Repub cop out. The Demos haven't taken control of anything that the Bushmeister hasn't been able to squash. You can't blame the mess that yo yo has put this country in on anyone but the Repubs, or the Buch/Chaingang machine. This is their mess and now they're claiming to be the solution?? Let's send in the iceberg to save the Titanic!!!

Bar none, the biggest mistake the Demos have made is that they haven't moved to impeach that criminal and his wiley side kick. We need Obama in there to turn up all the truths of this past 8 years so those boys can be tried for their crimes.
firemom

Posted Sun, Sep 14, 3:49 p.m. Inappropriate

Believing all the b.s. hype!?!: Are you kidding me??? Why would ANYONE forward this to everyone that they know? This is 1 (ONE) persons opinion!!! This is not fact! Good God are we as stupid as we portray ourselves to be? It appears as if it is so. You have NO right to vote if you do not know everything about the actual facts, of every single candidate that you are voting for and against. It is your constitutional duty to learn everything that you can, before you vote. Otherwise, don't do it! If you are voting due to emails, and unfactual comments that have been made, that you have overheard, you have absolutely no right to vote!

Posted Mon, Sep 15, 11 a.m. Inappropriate

RE: Make the raped pay their medical bills: Not only make them pay their medical bills, but Palin would FORCE them to have a child conceived through a rape! Rape is a violent act, and yet she would make a woman relive it for the rest of her life by forcing her to bear a child of this violent act. She is such a huge step backwards for every woman in this country if she gets elected. I shutter at the thought. Hillary is light years ahead of Palin in every respect, especially for woman's rights.

Posted Wed, Sep 17, 7:46 p.m. Inappropriate

a brilliant plan: You have Kilkenny here with grudging admiration for the progress that Palin has made, with charges, that if true, make Palin more impressive than ever, the fact that she has dominated every fight she has been in.
Then you have the bombthrowers like Keith Olberman and Kathy Griffin. ("I just don't get it".) That's right, you don't. Then you have ignoramuses like Matt Damon and Lindsey Lohan...
Obama could win if he and his surrogates just talk about issues, but these Garafalo-types are annoying the people in this country in those swing state (the ones who actually work for a living, make things, grow things) and are swinging the election decisively towards McCain-Palin.
These celebs can't actually be this stupid - they are obviously republican operatives, geniuses really, pretending to be elite Obama supporters who will use phony attacks and lies - which make Obama look like some kind of win-at-all-costs jerk. What a brilliant plan! It practically guarantees that McCain will win going away. If only the Obama supporters had thought of this tactic first.
rckthorp

Posted Thu, Sep 18, 1:11 a.m. Inappropriate

This article is great for questioning Palin at the interviews and townhall meetings.: I do not know how but I wish this article is posted at Huffinton Post, CNN, Larry King, Cafferty File, Lou Dobbs, etc. etc.

How about Obama's campaign headquarters.
LTGUSA

Posted Thu, Sep 18, 1:37 a.m. Inappropriate

Allow me to quote an old Chinese saying or proverb: In America, we have less than 300 years of history and "civilization" and many have a very short and shallow view on things, experience and philosophy training. Allow me to tell you something I learned when I was in junior high school in Hong Kong. I learned that the "To be able to successfully govern a country or nation, first of all one has to be able to govern your own home or family". This carries thousands of years of proofs and testimonials.

Michael
from Hong Kong 44 years ago.
LTGUSA

Posted Thu, Sep 18, 1:44 a.m. Inappropriate

Anyone should be able to see Palin is very proud liar!: In an interview she said that she agreed to take the VP job without even blinking her eye or instant and without any hesitation tells us that she is egotistical, cocky and a liar to show she is in control. She cannot be trusted.

She gave up her family who needs her to seek fame and glory. No, it is not a sexiest remark. A Mom is a Mom and blame God for making the arrangement.
LTGUSA

Posted Thu, Sep 18, 1:48 a.m. Inappropriate

RE: A Political Agenda Poorly Disguised: You have no idea how ignorant you are and got fool by Palin. I am sorry that you are so simple minded.

LTGUSA

Posted Thu, Sep 18, 6:46 a.m. Inappropriate

RE: Amniocentesis: Woman afraid of Palin,
Just wanted to let you know a few things about amniocentesis. Yes, an amnio does have side effects (cramping, bleeding, and leaking amnio fluid) and it does have an increased risk of miscarriage, but only by 1/2-1%. Not that big a risk when you consider the results of the test. Amniocentesis is recommended for most high risk pregnancies (or women screened with >1 in 250 chance of the fetus having Down's). The procedure is especially important for women over 35 or with PCOS.
I had an amnio done when I was informed that my ovarian state greatly increased the chances of my baby having Down's. My biggest reason for doing it was not only finding out for sure, but knowing the severity. Some cases of Down's are so mild that the average person would never know anything was wrong. I wanted to know what to expect, be it a healthy, relatively normal baby, or if I should start planning for long term medical care, which areas have the best hospitals, things like that.
I hope that answers some questions you had about the reasons a woman would have an amniocentesis, the benefits far outweigh the risks for me.
-LSL
If you have any other questions, check out www.americanpregnancy.org. It was a very helpful site for me, when I was considering the procedure.

Posted Thu, Sep 18, 8:40 a.m. Inappropriate

She May Be The Biggest Liar: While I am not saying that I firmly believe in this the article I am posting a link for. I must admit that I had to stop and think really hard about everything written and the fact that is truly does raise questions as to whether Trig is Sarah's child or Bristol's...
Of course those who refuse to even consider the possibility will say I hate Palin or how could I think such a terrible thing, but the point is, I AM THINKING.... I refuse to blindly accept what any politician tells me about anything and quite frankly a lot of the issues surrounding Trig's birth are absurdly unreal...Flying 22 hours to deliver birth in a crap hospital in Alaska? Passing numerous state of the art hospitals along the way...No doctor anywhere would allow such a thing for the safety of mother and child....

So read this article and let the questions in your mind begin to swirl... but do not do the typical reaction without reading it first of outrage. I have the right to question everything I choose and no one will bully me into silence, not even on a stupid comments board.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-/2/hi/default.stm
ldavis24

Posted Thu, Sep 18, 8:42 a.m. Inappropriate

RE: She May Be The Biggest Liar: Let me give the correct link here

http://open.salon.com/content.php?cid=14590


Ok try that again, and now let the outrage break the flood gates!
ldavis24

Posted Thu, Sep 18, 3:48 p.m. Inappropriate

DNA test, anyone?: While I don't want to guess who are the real parents of Trig, I'm sure everyone, even Palin, has heard about DNA testing. It would give 100% certainty who is the real parent. That would be so easy way to stop all the gossip and reveal the truth.

As far as I know, she hasn't done such, or at least hasn't shared the information about the result.

I know only one reason, why she wouldn't have done one... she's lying. If she later comes out with the result (from a good clinic, not "special Wasilla clinic"), I'll take my words back. Until so, I think the absence of the DNA test is the best evidence against her.
TP75

Posted Thu, Sep 18, 4:52 p.m. Inappropriate

RE: palin's amnio: You are not alone. I thought the same thing because I could not come up with a rational explanation as to why Ms. Palin would procede in the manner she did. The story was extremely fishy: about having her water break in TX, then taking the time to make her speech, then getting on a long flight without telling the crew she was in labor, and then making the long drive to the hospital. If she is a proponent of "pro-life" then it is incumbent upon her to walk the walk and to do whatever she can not to jeopardize the life of her unborn child. How is being irresponsible with the baby's health in utero in sync with refusing to have an abortion? It intrigues me that people who would wish to remove a national law to protect a woman's right to choose would CHOOSE to act so irresponsibly. If that baby did die because her actions were so irresponsible, by her own moral standards, she could have been accused of infanticide by child neglect. Luckily for her there are laws that protect her from that.

I agree her judgement as a mother does appear to be suspect.

On another topic, Palin was approached a year ago, sometime around last summer, as a possible VP pick. This choice did not come out of nowhere. At various times throughout the year, interviewers asked her what she thought of that. So it was not a sudden decision when she said "yes."

That said, I think McCain has made an extremely irresponsible choice in chosing Palin as a VP. I do not share her social agenda. But that is not my main concern. Serious times call for candidates who are knowledgeable on complex national and international matters. We are in the 21st century and our country's systems are collapsing. This is no time to choose a mediocre candidate to help run the top office of the land.

But don't worry (read: sarcasm). McCain could very well relegate Palin to menial tasks akin to what John Addams did as VP under Washington. There is rarely a tie in the Senate, so we don't have to worry about that. I don't believe Cheney had one instance where he had to break a tie in 8 years. She can just attend state funerals, etc. No matter what the outcome of the election, she'll have plenty of time to take care of those kids!
dss

Posted Thu, Sep 18, 4:57 p.m. Inappropriate

RE: She May Be The Biggest Liar: A very interesting read I must say, as I did read the link provided by ldavis24, thanks for giving us this link. This whole thing does not pass the smell test, there is a major coverup going on here. I hope it comes out BEFORE the election, as we cannot afford to have a liar one step away from the Presidency.

Posted Fri, Sep 19, 1:49 p.m. Inappropriate

FactCheck.org has some interesting info for you!: The site referenced above is a site produced by a real PBS/NPR sponsor, the Annenberg Foundation, friend to finding the truth behind various claims -- including those listed in "letters" like the one referenced in this Comments section and others.

Indeed, the letter writer is a real person. I have actually seen part of her interview. She's the spitting image of a prior incarnation of an aunt in Seattle.

That aside, I believe it would be instructive to most of the writers that have commented on this posting to read one of the Annenberg Foundations articles that checks the facts -- i.e., get closer to the "truth." It may shed some light on the "Letter from Alaska."

The article is @: http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_palin.html

After you read the article, please read about the foundation, it's objectives, funding, writers and researchers, etc. Maybe some of the vitriolic language in the posted comments will be seen in a new light. After all, we all want the truth, right? Be honest with yourselves, and drill down (an intended pun) to something other than innuendo. It's truly unbecoming to those who claim to be upstanding, honest people. Get facts, folks. Or are we victim of the ol' line, "don't confuse me with facts, my mind's made up!"
pfhelton

Posted Sat, Sep 20, 6:54 a.m. Inappropriate

RE: DNA test, anyone?: Are you serious??? Sarah is the real mom of Trig. The story came up as a lie from the extreme left wing. Wake up people!

joshs

Posted Sat, Sep 20, 9:01 a.m. Inappropriate

Two of a Kind: Palin-Putin: Seems to me, these two next-door neighbors have a lot in common.

Governing with huge budget surpluses stemming from the high price of oil, unparalleled popularity, and open hostility toward democracy and freedom of the press.

Feel free to forward this bit of Op Art that says it all:

http://www.extracriticum.com/ECicons/PALUTIN.jpg

Posted Tue, Sep 23, 4:54 p.m. Inappropriate

Road to Nowhere: There is a news article I just ran across about the "Road to Nowhere" that has just been completed in Juneau, AK that Gov. Palin's transportation dept. spent $25 million on - it is a gravel road leading to the site of the "Bridge to Nowhere", the bridge that Palin boasts that she stopped to save tax payers money. The 3.2 mile gravel road will be used for road races, hunters and possibly future development, because the bridge will now not be built. This is such a disgusting waste of tax payers money, how can she possibly bill herself as one that will stop wastful government spending when she approves such a wasteful project as this road that will serve only a handful of people? She is not only a liar, but a hypocrite as well.

Posted Thu, Sep 25, 6:21 a.m. Inappropriate

Envy & Ignorance: "Fourth, she has hated me since back in 1996, when I was one of the 100 or so people who rallied to support the city librarian against Sarah's attempt at censorship."

Can you or anyone actually prove "attempt at censorship"? Or is it actually a riff between the librarian and the mayor and the librarian made up the claim about censorship? So - where's your proof?

While you're digging for your proof, you may want to seek professional help for your highly developed sense of envy and jealousy you have for someone that has risen from the ranks of Wasilla to the level Sarah has.

And while you're in the library doing your research, you may want to check out all of the facts about Obama. The man is a threat to this country and the world in general. If elected, there's a very real chance Israel will attack Iran simply because of Obama's tendancies to support Iran with nuclear weapons.

You wouldn't have supported Sarah is she'd have run for trash collector since you and her are obviously not on a very friendly basis.

You have to admire Sarah for not taking the time to swoop so low as to write a publicly distibuted email about you, your family, your background and your faults and errors.
lpark

Posted Mon, Sep 29, 4:27 p.m. Inappropriate

Is washington dc totally brain dead?: Hello....do you remember when kids wanted a house and mom and dad made the down payment and the kids made the payments and sometimes mom and dad helped with the payments? Our government could do that with all the bad loans. Help the honest people keep their homes and the flakes who couldnt make the original payments go down... cost? maybe $100 billion....those the government help would sometime refi or sell and the govt would get its money back with interest 5 or ten years from now. If you think the payout of $700 billion is ever coming back I have this bridge to nowhere with a beautiful road to nowhere to selll you...is there not one brain left in Washington DC is everyone totally corrupt? The commissions to brokers on the $700 billion will run $70 billion. That is more than helping the people that hold these mortgages to make payments for 10 years. After the $700 million is used the government will still do this step so save the $700 million for taxpayers. Good gawd. President kennedy is spinning in his grave.



Chuck and Marlene Kinsey

Posted Sat, Oct 11, 2:38 p.m. Inappropriate

I hope you, Anne, and the many people Sarah Palin wronged in her ascent to power, are feeling vindicated today. I'd love to read a follow-up to you article. I wrote about the recent turn of events in my own column on Capitol Hill Blue this morning "McCain gets angry. Palin gets even. Pinched, will they pay the piper?" ( see http://www.capitolhillblue.com/cont/node/11545 )

This afternoon I was searching the web and found your article again, which I had read when you first wrote it. I was so impressed I put a few quotes on and a link. I hope you'll get a few more readers from Capitol Hill Blue because everything you say is now becoming mainstream.

I recall you being dismissed as a partisan ranter or someone with an axe to grind when it first was published.

I just hope that on Nov. 4th the Alaskans with Palin's bootprints on their backs get the final satisfaction.

HalBrown

Posted Thu, Oct 30, 5:29 p.m. Inappropriate

You folks are so interesting.

You act as though Sarah Palin is running against Barack Obama. And what is worse, with the terrible things Obama has left unanswered, you really question Sarah's child birth? I mean COME ON!

McCain will statistically due to his own genetics live a long life. His mother is 96 and doing reports.

You can't read through all of this media bias? You are all from America and really want to change things right? You want your military sons and daughters safe right? And you would like a future with properity and jobs? You know John McCain is the right person for the job. He has crossed party lines on several occasions and has done well with immigrants, economy in Arizona, and with our true heros our military. Why do you think that 80% of the military wants McCain? Because they believe him to be honest and he understands them and will bring them home heroes.

In the United States we are born with opportunity. So that any person, woman or black man can become whatever they work for. But to think that you have to find these rackets of information on Sarah Palin to make you feel better about stabbing our men and women in uniform in the back! This is ridiculous.

Take a look at the issues, take a look at the real documents on Alaska's Governor's website. There are so many folks "in the tank" for Obama that are making up stories, and blogging and adding twisted sentiments about Sarah Palin .. it is just absurd. Please go to the sites that have the real information and don't believe everything you think someone said on a forum.

John McCain and Sarah Palin will do a great job for this country. They will help clear out the corruption in Washington. By far more then any other choices you have available. That is one place we need to start.

Rather then continue on and on here, I am just really hoping you can find out more information on your own.
Don't you find it curious that with the polls so close in numbers that you can only find NEGATIVE things about McCain/Palin? Don't you realize Obama spent 600 million to McCain's 85 million? Obama has folks everywhere, media, news, blogs, etc, all paid off to have positive information on him. You think he doesn't make a mistake in a speech now and then? Why aren't the media jumping on it? Have you asked yourself that.
http://www.nextgenerationcorp.com/NextGenBlog/?p=68 great things about Obama
http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Issues/FDEB03A7-30B0-4ECE-8E34-4C7EA83F11D8.htm McCains strategies.

Cassia

Posted Thu, Oct 30, 5:33 p.m. Inappropriate

http://crosscut.com/2008/09/02/2008-election/17341/#end-of-comments

check this out!

Cassia

Posted Thu, Oct 30, 5:33 p.m. Inappropriate

http://townhall.com/

You can get all sorts of views at this link.

Cassia

Posted Thu, Oct 30, 5:48 p.m. Inappropriate

Palin doesn't have any way to "make you have a rape child". She is only a Vice P nominee. Don't you realize you rarely ever see the VP? It is John MCCain we are voting on here. Not Sarah Palin.

You folks have to put Sarah Palin against Barack Obama, because you can't put Obama side by side with McCain. McCain is so very worthy to be president of this country. Everyone knows it, and so because Obama is not worthy, they side him next to Sarah Palin. He is just as inexperienced if even worse. He wants to actually change the bill of rights... and the constitution. He allows partial birth abortion at 7 mos old, and it is just unbearable. Please take a look at really what Obama is standing for and nothing else. He is not the man for this important job during the time of our countries great need of a true leader.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPF1FhCMPuQ

Cassia

Posted Thu, Dec 11, 2:56 p.m. Inappropriate

Anne,
Your essay is very informative and I think we have met in library circles somewhere. I think your article helps make voicing an opposing opinion to Gov. Palin possible. Wasilla is not very forgiving when you oppose the religious republican right opinions. However the crush of Democrats at the last caucus may have made many stand up and take notice.
One issue you didn’t go into was the way that Gov. Palin put the same sex benefits out for a vote. This was for state employees only. It was a left over issue from Murkowski. Within weeks of taking office the same sex benefits was thrown out in a confusing “yes means no, no means yes” vote. Anyone including me knew it was a ploy to throw the decision on the public. This brought out every homo-phobic reaction from churches and radio hosts and radio callers outraged at how the next step was gay marriage and the ruination of the sanctity of marriage. While I hadn’t voted for Palin I still admired her up until that moment.
When she cut every library expenditure in the state with “not a state responsibility”, as a library advocate on city, borough and state boards I found the cuts outrageous. She seems to have a “thing” for libraries.
To me Palin’s ability to take up the vilest attacks on people, i.e. Obama, for her own gain shows me an unstable, unreliable government official. I’ve met her briefly, attended several events with her as keynote speaker and never imagined the vitriolic level that she could attain.

Posted Wed, Jul 8, 10:49 p.m. Inappropriate

Sarah Palin, the former Vice Presidential candidate has been making news since the election, most of it not really noteworthy. However, now there's some Sarah Palin news that's at least worth a little attention. She has announced that she will resign her post as Governor of Alaska. There hasn't been a reason given specifically as to why she has resigned the post as Alaska Governor, but it's rumored that she's doing it to concentrate on being the frontrunner for the 2012 Republican Candidate, and she's probably also looking into some instant payday loans for campaign funding. Sarah Palin is loved by some, detested and ridiculed by others, and secured loans for a 2012 Presidential run might not be ill spent.

MichBBB

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