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Seattle's economic future

A forum on the financial crisis settles some jitters about what lies ahead but leaves more questions than answers.
2014: The year $15 an hour came to Seattle.

2014: The year $15 an hour came to Seattle.

The second of two forums on the financial crisis sponsored by the University of Washington Alumni Association took place Nov. 3 at Kane Hall. Both events, which drew capacity crowds, are available via archived streaming video.

Whereas the first discussion, which I also covered for Crosscut, summarized the origins and possible consequences of the market meltdown, the second was billed as covering possible solutions. Moderated by former Mayor Norm Rice, it was simply titled, "What Should We Do Now?" and featured Yu-Chin Chen and Charles Nelson of the economics department, Karma Hadjimichalakis of the Foster School of Business, Wolfram Latsch of the Jackson School of International Studies, and local economic analyst Dick Conway. Yet Nelson's late addition to the panel (he's still not listed on the webcast page) wasn't the only change of plans. Somehow the forum had been retooled as part two of the first rather than the second in a series: Instead of providing practical advice to worried citizens or policy advice to the newly elected president, the panelists spent most of their time talking about the true global nature of the financial crisis.

James Jiambalvo, dean of the Foster School, noted during his introductory remarks that while the U.S. stock market has certainly suffered (down 36 percent in the preceding 12 months), we are relatively well off. China, whose market fell nearly 60 percent over the same period, and Iceland, whose OMX 15 index fell 77 percent on a single day, Oct. 14, have taken it far worse. Interestingly, this means that the United States is not in danger of losing global financial preeminence, as Rice worried. Chen actually thinks we might gain: The fact that the dollar is gaining ground against foreign currencies means that global investors still see us as a "safe haven." It was the attractiveness of the U.S. from an investment perspective that brought a flood of liquidity into our markets after 9/11, and a similar phenomenon seems to be taking place right now. "Countries are lining up to lend us money" at relatively low rates, says Latch.

What do they see coming? Latch predicts greater international coordination and cooperation, along with the overhaul of institutions like the World Bank and IMF, which he characterized as having been designed for "a completely different world." Longer-term, everyone seemed to be counting on a U.S. recovery, though whether it would take the shape of an L, V, W, or U was up for debate. As for Washington state, Conway foresees a slowdown, even in Puget Sound. King County in general and Seattle in particular are the only jurisdictions still showing job growth, and this is unlikely to continue.

It was when Rice opened up the floor to questions that more practical issues came to the fore. Members of the audience were concerned about unfunded Medicare and Social Security liabilities, the effect of the crisis on students (loans and job prospects), possible municipal bond defaults, and the possible departure of Boeing from the area. The panel was unable to do much reassuring, though Conway thinks it would be too hard for Boeing to move, and Chen is an optimist with regard to entitlement programs. Rice does, however, foresee some political subdivisions defaulting on their issues, and as for students? Nelson says this is a good time to go to school, as the opportunity cost is low. (Read: In 2009, the choice may not be between school and work, but between school and unemployment). Latsch got the biggest laugh of the night when he expressed his concern over a glut of applications to law school. Apparently many of his former students have recently left Wall Street and now want to apply their talents to our legal system.

In fairness to the panel, there are no quick fixes. Their suggestions to the new president, with which they closed the evening, included investment in infrastructure (what Nelson called "bridges to somewhere"); the avoidance of protectionism, isolationism, and antiglobalization (Nelson and Latsch); and aid to states, the unemployed, and underwater homeowners, plus more money for education (Hadjimichalakis). Conway had said earlier that the domestic economy is paralyzed by a "fear of falling," and that to combat this "we need to do a better job of explaining what's going on ... help people to think properly about the problem." He reiterated in his final remarks that "a lot of our troubles are [from] misperceptions about what's going on," and that, like FDR, President-elect Barack Obama must talk directly to the people and "give straight answers."


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Comments:

Posted Tue, Nov 18, 11:05 a.m. Inappropriate

Received the following comment via e-mail from a reader, and am posting with his permission. — Ben Lukoff

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Members of the audience were concerned about unfunded Medicare and
Social Security liabilities

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This is an issue they should have focused on during the presidential
campaign, not at a UW forum. In particular, this is a question they
should have directed to their candidate. As it turns out, neither
candidate spent much time going into specifics. Obama, for example,
talked vaguely of a SS plan that would levy a payroll tax of several
percent a year on incomes above $250,000... beginning a decade
after he takes office. As luck would have it, that's just about when
the surplus is projected to become a deficit, requiring either a
reduction in benefits or increase in taxes, or both.

Ultimately, it's a failure of voters who gave the candidates a pass on
these critical issues.

James Cameron, Seattle

Posted Wed, Nov 19, 3:44 p.m. Inappropriate

Seattle's economic future
Boy this is a no-brainer. Simply, BROKEN. There will never be enough money for the city of Seattle or the State of Washington. No matter how you feel about taxes or legal laws, this place can not get enough of your money. Example, look at the sales tax. It is maxed out legally; no problem... just change the name. We call it 'fees' here in the northwest. Look at your bills under 'other fees'. Property values go down? Want tax relief? Not here; we keep high property values and high property taxes on the rolls until next year. Just ignore reality. Do not like it? Get back to us when you get your next Tax Evaluation. LOL

FedWay

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