In Seattle, plan for 2nd Chinese Gate surprises Vietnamese community

One location being eyed is at 12th Avenue South, near the heart of Little Saigon. But city rules may actually make it easier to put the gate in the International District closer to the existing one.

The Chinese Gate on King Street South

Joe Copeland/Crosscut

The Chinese Gate on King Street South

A potential site for a second Chinese Gate is at Eighth Avenue and South King Street in the International District.

Joe Copeland/Crosscut

A potential site for a second Chinese Gate is at Eighth Avenue and South King Street in the International District.

Looking back toward the International District on South King Street from 12th Avenue South.

Joe Copeland/Crosscut

Looking back toward the International District on South King Street from 12th Avenue South.

There isn't anything particularly unique about South King Street in the International District. Empty lots, restaurants, and various other businesses line the street that serves as the heart of Chinatown in Seattle.

But two years ago, after nearly a decade of planning and work, part of Chinatown got a makeover when Seattle's first historic Chinese gate was completed in the neighborhood.

Now, efforts are under way to install a second Chinese gate in the neighborhood farther east on South King Street. The proposed locations, however, have brought up concerns in the surrounding communities about whether or not neighborhood boundaries are being respected.

The Historic China Gate Foundation — a group of business leaders in the International District — came together in 1999 with the hopes of completing two traditional Chinese gates to serve as landmarks in Chinatown. The goal of the project was to improve not only the aesthetic of the area, but to promote the prominence and contribution of the Chinese community in Seattle. After nearly a decade of work and hundreds of thousands of dollars of fundraising, the first gate was completed in 2008 on South King Street near Fifth Avenue South.

Members of the Historic Gate Foundation say that planning for the second gate is still in preliminary phases and no location has been selected yet. However, two locations are being considered: One is at Eighth Avenue South and South King Street, just west of I-5, and the other is at Twelfth Avenue South and South King Street, which is technically in Little Saigon, a Vietnamese neighborhood.

The proposal of this second location in Little Saigon, while not set in stone, has some members of the Vietnamese community upset about the perceived lack of communication in the planning process.

Quang Nguyen, a board member of the Washington Vietnamese American Chamber of Commerce, said he first heard about the proposed location in Little Saigon through word of mouth about three months ago.

"Somebody said to me, 'Hey, did you know they’re planning to put another gate up at Twelfth and King?' " Nguyen recalled. "When I realized where it was, I immediately thought it was absolutely the wrong place to put the gate."

Quang, along with others in the Vietnamese community, feel that Twelfth Avenue South and South King Street would be the wrong place to put the gate because it is essentially in the heart of Little Saigon, and two blocks east of the dividing boundary provided by I-5.

Tuck Eng, president of the Historic Gate group and a lifelong resident of Seattle, is well aware of the boundary issue. In fact, Eng and the other eight members of the Historic Gate Foundation say that their ideal location for the gate would be at Eighth Avenue South and South King Street, just a few blocks over, but there's a problem. The business and property owners adjacent to that intersection have not given their approval for the project, whereas over at Twelfth Avenue South, the property owners have said they would have no complaints. Despite the intersection of Twelfth Avenue South and South King Street being in Little Saigon, the property owners there are Chinese.

Just a few blocks west over at Eighth Avenue South sit the Four Seas Restaurant and Wing Luke Museum. Eng said he has approached the property owners at those locations several times during the past six months, but they have not given him their consent to move forward, because they say they may want to further develop the property in the future and worry that a large monument across the street may impede their ability to do so.

One important thing has changed, however, since the last gate was planned that could allow Eng to bypass the property owners. This would require Eng and the rest of the board to go straight to the city's Department of Neighborhoods to make a recommendation to the Seattle City Council — a move that may be more political than Eng had originally anticipated, but necessary to avoid conflict with Vietnamese community members in Little Saigon.

When the Historic Gate Foundation set out on their mission to complete the two gates in Chinatown more than a decade ago, they were paving the way in setting policy for improving the International District.

"We were pioneers," Eng recalled of the process to get funding and approval for the gate through the city. "They really didn't know what to do with us."

The Historic Gate Foundation underwent a complicated, seven-year process of raising funds and obtaining permits. Even now, after the first gate has been completed, the foundation has had to continue to fundraise to pay to maintain the gate and cover insurance costs. The city refused to accept the gate as a gift due to the liability and maintenance costs. The cost to the Historic Gate Foundation is just under $10,000 a year with an additional $50,000 kept on retainer in case the gate should be abandoned and need to be torn down by the city.

This has not dissuaded the foundation, though, as it held its first fundraiser event at the end of October, raising about $20,000 to handle these costs as they move forward in finding seed money for the second gate.

However, since Eng and the other members of the board played the roles of pioneers in the process for street improvement the first time around, they may find the process this time to be more involved, since the city has had time to formulate a strategy for such improvements.

"There's a whole new process for street improvement permits and how those are coordinated," said Angela Steele of the Seattle Department of Transportation (SDOT) in a phone interview earlier this month.

This new process involves applying for a street improvement permit, creating an environmental impact statement, and getting recommendations from the Seattle Design Commission all before SDOT drafts a resolution that would have to go through more final reviews before being put up for public comment.

"I don't think the first gate went through this level of detail," said Steele, who had only learned of plans to put in a second gate earlier this month.

Steele said if the Historic Gate Foundation went through all of these steps, then the adjacent property owner approval would not be required and that the property owners on their own would not have veto power over the project.

However, Steele noted that the foundation would "definitely need certificate approval from the International District Review Board, who would consider the businesses individually."

The foundation's Eng is anticipating that the Review Board and Department of Neighborhoods will not approve the plan unless adjacent property owner approval is procured. "That's the neighborhood's discretion," Eng explained by phone earlier this month. "The last time, you had to at least get the owners to approve."

However, even though Eng says this is the process they had to go through the first time, city officials maintain that Eng and the rest of the Historic Gate Foundation do not need approval from the property owners to move forward — they simply have to get approval from the International Special Review Board. The International Special Review Board will likely take neighborhood sentiment into consideration, but does not require property owner approval. This potentially sets aside Eng's and the Historic Gate Foundation's reasoning for looking past the intersection of Eighth Avenue South and South King Street.


Like what you just read? Support high quality local journalism. Become a member of Crosscut today!

Comments:

Posted Sat, Dec 18, 5:03 p.m. Inappropriate

I had no idea the original plan called for two gates. Aren't the ones in Philadelphia and Washington D.C. singletons?

I'm not opposed to the idea of a second one, but it should definitely be at 8th, not 12th. And this isn't just a matter of neighborhood boundaries, which are generally fluid, but of intercultural relations.

Posted Mon, Dec 20, 7:57 a.m. Inappropriate

Has the group proposing the gate shown any evidence that the first gate has had any positive effects on the neighborhood? The new projects that really bring people to the ID have been Wing Luke, Uwajimaya, Kobo, the rehab of the American Hotel into a hostel and the improvement of its ground floor retail, Interim's continued work, and the PDA's on going rehab's and management.

Posted Mon, Dec 20, 4:45 p.m. Inappropriate

What's really great about the first gate, is that to the North of it is "Joe's" a dive bar if I ever saw one. One imagines that if you needed a loose skipper for a drug run, that you'd find one sloshed here at 9am.

And to the South, is a vacant decrepit building with a parking lot just West of it.

http://tinyurl.com/26yacbt

and use google street view to see for yourself.

I happen to like these bits of public art, but for the money spent it didn't improve the immediate neighborhood.

GaryP

Login or register to add your voice to the conversation.

Join Crosscut now!
Subscribe to our Newsletter

Follow Us »