Occupy Seattle: How a crowd is forming a reasonable agenda

Two days of visits show some very relevant demands, along with room for improvement.

A 2011 crowd for Occupy Seattle at Westlake

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A 2011 crowd for Occupy Seattle at Westlake

An Occupy Seattle protester holds up her sign.

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An Occupy Seattle protester holds up her sign.

The Occupy movement is gaining presence if not traction. Occupy Wall Street is now entering its second month. Occupy Seattle is in its third week. And similar actions have sprung up across the state in Olympia, Spokane, Tacoma, Vancouver, and several other cities.

Nationally — in fact globally — support is building to highlight gross inequality in the distribution of income and wealth. And pundits of various strips have weighed in, some concerned about sustainability. Others are like documentary film maker Michael Moore, an occupier who abhors the excesses of Wall Street and thinks we need an alternative to capitalism. He told a BBC interviewer that time will tell what form it will take and how we get there.

The encampment in Seattle has a daily agenda of activities ending with a general assembly. There are teach-ins and policy building discussions.

Even with some minor skirmishes, the city seems to be taking it in stride. Elected officials have given it their qualified endorsement. There have been complaints about public costs, especially overtime pay for extra security, but the Police Department has shrugged this off as a predictable and small expense, covered by their budget.

It seemed to be time for this somewhat reluctant protestor to pay a visit and find out how things were going, and where they are heading. I say reluctant, since I’m usually slow to get involved and arrive after the hard job of organizing has been done. And camping on the sidewalk at my age is not a pleasant thought.

Two afternoons of observing, mingling, and conversations at Westlake is not enough, but previous experiences may have helped. They go back several decades as a participant in various protest movements, marches, boycotts, and other struggles for peace and justice — nuclear arms, farm workers' rights, civil rights, anti-Apartheid, tax equity, and opposition to the Vietnam and Iraq wars.

I was arrested in one direct action at the South African consulate’s Seattle residence. Nothing like handcuffs to clear the mind.

And I admit to taking a pass on one — the Seattle anti-WTO protests. Some involved in those demonstrations simply wanted to put the WTO out of business, even if it meant resorting to violence. They were ignoring the obvious: the world needs an agency that adjudicates trade disputes. And the WTO is an essential part of the larger effort to construct a global policy umbrella that allows countries with disparate interests to work cooperatively for the common good. The WTO needed organizational reform, not revocation of its charter.

I went to Westlake without a reporter’s interviewing skills, but I think I did come away with a sense of what's at stake, at least for many of the occupiers. Although there are some recognizable long-time social activists involved, most seemed to be relatively new to the battle lines. Unlike many other younger folk one encounters in public these days, absorbed in the latest wireless gadget, they were very willing to talk. And, as expected, the interests of those I spoke with varied widely.

The first young man I encountered, an articulate UW history grad, was holding a white board sign that read “end tax breaks and loopholes.” Clearly a person after my own heart: I've long been interested in the subject at the state level. His focus was on federal tax policy and the need for a fairer U.S. tax system, but most interesting was his support of government programs and capitalism as the way to grow the economy. He was clearly drawing a line between himself and other protest participants, but was hoping the occupation “will shift the Democratic Party back to its more progressive values.”

Another was strongly for direct action on specific issues, such as helping local people caught in the home mortgage default bind. He was organizing a teach-in on direct action tactics, starting with small victories.

In general, conversations were indicative of the wide range of opinions among occupiers as to the ultimate solution, and ranged from somewhat possible to utopian. One gentleman wanted to see all laws and regulations put to a public referendum, while a second suggested a cash-less society in which all needs are somehow met, perhaps by everyone donating the surplus of their productivity to others.

As a group, the crowd at Westlake is working on a range of policy approaches to be considered at some future time. At this point it consists of a list of “demands” that range from specific to general, and from reform of the existing political/economic system to its radical restructuring. Sort of a choice between fix it or flush it.

The 42 current demands, which go far beyond income equality concerns, are essentially being prioritized through direct voting. Anyone can vote, and there is no limit on the number of votes one person can cast. This exemplifies the movement’s trust in an open democratic process.

Some of these demands require substantial definition and background: The current top vote-getter is “Corporate accountability”. Others, such as “Universal healthcare,” seventh from the top, are more understandable.

The second and third ranked demands, “Fair and equitable tax system” and “Tax the rich and big business” have an obvious overlap. Clearly the devil is in the details.

Some occupiers, concerned about being co-opted, will not like what I’m about to say. But as a former Democratic Party activist, I would expect to find many of Occupy Seattle's demands in the platform of the Democratic Party.

And, somewhat surprisingly, near the bottom of the ranking is “Oppose the two parties of big business.” An attached note says this is “mainly about ending corporate lobbying and 2 party system.” Presumably this ties into another demand: “Allow 3rd parties to participate meaningfully in elections.”

There are a few holes in protestors' demands. Some important areas are not explicitly mentioned, like protection of Social Security, immigration reform, foreign aid, and climate action. And concern about unemployment is addressed only in one demand — “Public works program to create jobs,” which doesn’t link unemployment to investment and tax policy. Understanding the interrelationships of policy demands is crucial.

The issue of reducing military spending is addressed in the group's demand to “End the wars — redirect war funding to meet human needs.” But the larger issue of the total Pentagon budget is not.

As the Occupy effort matures, there is room for improvement. There doesn’t seem to be an appreciation that many existing non-governmental organizations are working on the same or similar issues and could be allies — groups working for tax reform, social justice, peace, the environment, and reducing the influence of money in our political system.

Outreach beyond Westlake is crucial. "To occupy” applies to time and thought, as well physical space. A broader meaning would incorporate the notion that all of us need to be far more occupied in activities that focus our attention on important public issues.

And there is an urgent need to get beyond the practical problem of sustaining a street protest 24/7 into the winter months. The general assembly is preoccupied with this, as it should be. But the problem detracts from other, potentially more productive efforts.

What is most striking in all this is the fact that the movement's demands actually cover much of the agenda that President Obama has proposed but a conflicted Congress has failed to enact it. Overall, the thrust seems to be not to abolish the system, but to fix it.


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Comments:

Posted Thu, Oct 27, 9:40 a.m. Inappropriate

Here is a piece in the Chronicle of Higher Education on the Intellectual Roots of the "Occupy" movement:

http://chronicle.com/article/Intellectual-Roots-of-Wall/129428/?sid=at&utm;_source=at&utm;_medium=en

Here are Senator Leahy's "Six Demands" http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/10/12-6

Here is the link to Adbusters which initiated the movement:
http://www.adbusters.org/magazine

Matt Taibbi's five demands:
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/my-advice-to-the-occupy-wall-street-protesters-20111012

1. Break up the monopolies. The so-called "Too Big to Fail" financial companies – now sometimes called by the more accurate term "Systemically Dangerous Institutions" – are a direct threat to national security. They are above the law and above market consequence, making them more dangerous and unaccountable than a thousand mafias combined. There are about 20 such firms in America, and they need to be dismantled; a good start would be to repeal the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act and mandate the separation of insurance companies, investment banks and commercial banks.

2. Pay for your own bailouts. A tax of 0.1 percent on all trades of stocks and bonds and a 0.01 percent tax on all trades of derivatives would generate enough revenue to pay us back for the bailouts, and still have plenty left over to fight the deficits the banks claim to be so worried about. It would also deter the endless chase for instant profits through computerized insider-trading schemes like High Frequency Trading, and force Wall Street to go back to the job it's supposed to be doing, i.e., making sober investments in job-creating businesses and watching them grow.

3. No public money for private lobbying. A company that receives a public bailout should not be allowed to use the taxpayer's own money to lobby against him. You can either suck on the public teat or influence the next presidential race, but you can't do both. Butt out for once and let the people choose the next president and Congress.

4. Tax hedge-fund gamblers. For starters, we need an immediate repeal of the preposterous and indefensible carried-interest tax break, which allows hedge-fund titans like Stevie Cohen and John Paulson to pay taxes of only 15 percent on their billions in gambling income, while ordinary Americans pay twice that for teaching kids and putting out fires. I defy any politician to stand up and defend that loophole during an election year.

5. Change the way bankers get paid. We need new laws preventing Wall Street executives from getting bonuses upfront for deals that might blow up in all of our faces later. It should be: You make a deal today, you get company stock you can redeem two or three years from now. That forces everyone to be invested in his own company's long-term health – no more Joe Cassanos pocketing multimillion-dollar bonuses for destroying the AIGs of the world.

To quote the immortal political philosopher Matt Damon from Rounders, "The key to No Limit poker is to put a man to a decision for all his chips." The only reason the Lloyd Blankfeins and Jamie Dimons of the world survive is that they're never forced, by the media or anyone else, to put all their cards on the table. If Occupy Wall Street can do that – if it can speak to the millions of people the banks have driven into foreclosure and joblessness – it has a chance to build a massive grassroots movement. All it has to do is light a match in the right place, and the overwhelming public support for real reform – not later, but right now – will be there in an instant.

mikerol

Posted Thu, Oct 27, 5:17 p.m. Inappropriate

Some food for thought on Mr. Nelson's article on wanting demands. As he says, "The 42 current demands, which go far beyond income equality concerns, are essentially being prioritized through direct voting."

Let me ask the author and others a very simple question. If the Occupy Seattle group comes up with a list of demands, what's the point? Isn't that just going to be a list of things that Congress can now ignore?

The difference between Mr. Nelson and the young Occupiers is that the older generation views government as the body that you go to make policy changes. The younger generation views government as a dysfunctional body that only represents the 1%. So preparing a list of demands to this body is viewed as a complete waste of time.

Posted Thu, Oct 27, 9:35 p.m. Inappropriate

Mr. Borokowski raises a good question, one that Occupy Seattle will presumably answer at some point. It is their list of "demands", not this person's. If they decide that the list is a waste of time, which they very well could, then it might constitute an expression of "grievances" that the rest of us in the 99% should take into account as we engage our elected representatives in an effort to seek solutions on their behalf. The occupiers seem to be of two minds on this. You will notice that their website instructions as to how to deal with the media speak of grievances and not demands. But this is only my conjecture since, until they decide, one cannot get definitive answers from a leaderless group.

Posted Thu, Oct 27, 10:14 p.m. Inappropriate

I think you need to make a distinction between government and administration. Governments are structural (majoritarian democracy, proportional democracy, direct democracy) while administrations are the implementation of one of those; in the U.S. case (FDR, Reagan, Clinton, Bush, Obama, etc.). Most commentators fuss over the administration level--new policies enacted by a preferred party--Tea, Republic, Naderite, or Democratic--rather than the structural level where the problem really lies. As long as you have a majoritarian democracy that can be controlled by a monied elite, you will have, for example, a relatively unregulated economy and an unfair tax system--with some minor blips along the way. Different administrations can tinker with the percentages of, say, capital gains taxes, but the fundamental inequity in power won't change. Just maybe the structure of the American system is running its course and the Occupy movements are the canary in the coal mine. Who knows?

bkochis

Posted Fri, Oct 28, 4:29 p.m. Inappropriate

What we have is a republic that is leaning toward an oligarchy. Take the banks out of government by instead of using fractional banking to create the money supply, just print it. Congress has the authority, it's in the constitution. Just decide the value of a dollar and print just enough to maintain it's value. You can grow it at the rate of GDP without inflation if you set the GDP at a realistic value. Then instead of being beholden to the banks you are free.

GaryP

Posted Sat, Oct 29, 8 a.m. Inappropriate

I listened to the podcast and was very disappointed. With the possible exception of Jordan Royer, who faces such mundane problems as how to send his kids to college, the panelists sounded like Meathead on All in the Family - incensed that something has gone wrong (which it has), suffering from a generalized, unfocused malaise and above all, woefully ignorant and lacking any concept of how we got here. I wonder how many of these zealots have bothered to learn the difference between the thinking of Milton Friedman and Paul Krugman. After listening to the podcast, I'm still with them in spirit, but much less enthusiastically.

arizonan

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