Superintendent speed dating

Washington journalists were allowed to interview the finalists in the state's superintendent search in a three-day, speed-dating-like frenzy. Who is Mr. or Mrs. Right?

Superintendent Jose Banda

Seattle Public Schools

Superintendent Jose Banda

Superintendent candidate Sandy Husk

Superintendent candidate Sandy Husk

Superintendent candidate Steven Enoch

Seattle Public Schools

Superintendent candidate Steven Enoch

I’ve never tried speed dating but imagine it must be something like the media’s opportunity to meet the three finalists for the superintendent position, organized by Seattle Public Schools.

Teresa Wippel, the District’s public affairs officer, said she and a colleague developed the format so that reporters would have the opportunity to have their questions answered in a more intimate setting, rather than in a traditional press conference, where some reporters might dominate.

Over a three-day period, interviewing one candidate per day, journalists were placed in three groups of three or four, loosely organized by media, and were limited to 15 minutes of questions, posed round-robin style. The TV folks went first, followed by radio and print journalists, in the same groups each day, though one reporter from an alternative newspaper was a “group jumper,” moving from my group to another and back again. 

The seasoned pros grumbled that a press conference with a wide array of questions would have provided all of us a broader picture of each candidate and said this was the most closed superintendent selection process in recent memory.  The savvier journalists arranged to record the sessions they were not part of.  To make the most of our allotted time, we shared our questions in advance (within groups and from group to group) and afterwards congregated outside the School Board offices to compare impressions, which probably also happens at speed dating events. We also read and watched each other’s dispatches to see what we may have missed.

I put out an informal call for question ideas and also used my own experiences as a current Seattle Public Schools parent (the only one in the group) to ask each candidate questions about how s/he would stabilize District leadership and regain the public trust; balance school oversight with building autonomy; develop expectations for and evaluate principal and teachers and raise the level of academic rigor for all students, so that a Seattle Public School education is synonymous with a world-class education.  

Here are interview highlights and my own impressions of the candidates:

Day 1:  Jose Banda.  Everyone agreed that this affable Southern Californian has a Seattle-friendly demeanor and could be a “healer,” though some wondered whether he lacks the experience to run a District as large as ours.  He works hard to build relationships, says he takes the time to understand different personalities and viewpoints, and says creating a strong governance team and building and maintaining stability will be key priorities.

Leadership is key, he says, and principals set the tone, culture and focus of schools.  We should have high expectations for all students. 

Best quote:  "Every child should be seen as the next valedictorian."

Day 2:  Steven Enoch.  Honestly, it seems hard to understand why anyone with even a whiff of fiscal trouble about them would make the candidate short list, given the current level of public mistrust.  Our interview began with the loquacious Mr. Enoch on the defensive, clarifying the facts behind allegations that he left the San Juan Island school district in financial disarray (he says a new District building was purchased after he left).

Once we cleared that up, he told us that his single biggest mission would be to restore confidence in the District leadership.  He would focus on quality teaching and closing the achievement gap, commitments Seattle has already made, but has gotten sidetracked from because of leadership turnover. Classroom teachers need to put action plans in place for all kids and he would expect them to identify at -risk kids, as well as kids who have moved beyond proficiency and are on the cusp of tackling advanced work, and develop interventions for all.

He said that “100 little things” make joyful, viable schools and it is important to find that sweet spot between centralized direction and building autonomy.  Principals should be evaluated on many things, including the level of parent involvement at their schools.

Best quote:  “Credit goes down, blame goes up.”

Day 3:  Sandra Husk.  More than one of us came up with the Goldilocks and the porridge analogy and one journalist even speculated that the candidates were deliberately presented in an order that would make Husk seem like the “just right” choice.  (We also conceded that we met them alphabetically). 

The most pro-teacher in her comments, Husk repeatedly stressed the importance of soliciting teacher input, and also cited using best educational practices nationwide as factors to consider in strategic planning.  She was strong on specifics, but answered questions concisely, though in a targeted manner.

Like most educators, Husk favors “differentiated instruction” as a means of raising academic rigor, but says she supports professional development, practice, and feedback, so that teachers can successfully use this technique.

She alluded to her strengths in strategic planning as helping to regain the public trust. “People want to be confident that resources are being used to build a successful path for students so they exit the school system college and career- ready. The public will support you if you focus on the right outcomes and you make progress.”

Best quote:  “The central office should be a support system, providing service to our staff. That’s why we’re here.”

For the record, it will come as no surprise that none of the candidates came out strongly for or against charter schools or Teach for America and all stressed that standardized tests were just one factor in measuring teacher and principal effectiveness. They all said the right things in different ways, and each had a style that was bound to resonate with somebody.

In the end, I don’t think any of us felt that we had enough quality time with the candidates to fully determine their suitability to run Seattle Public Schools. A quick meeting is alright for a first date, but is it enough for a long-term commitment?

However, given that the average tenure of an urban school superintendent is five years, maybe it’s time to stop looking for Mr/Ms. Right and to focus on Mr./Ms. Right-for-the-Moment.


About the Author

Alison Krupnick is a freelance writer and author of "Ruminations from the Minivan: musings from a world grown large, then small." She's a former employee of the Washington State Department of Community, Trade and Economic Development, and a Seattle Public School parent. She can be reached through editor@crosscut.com.

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Comments:

Posted Thu, Apr 26, 5:06 p.m. Inappropriate

Wow, it's funny how your observations seem to be the nearly opposite those of Melissa Westbrook of the Seattle Schools Community blog, Brian Rosenthal of the Times, and actual video recordings provided by Traci Record at the West Seattle blog.

"Our interview began with the loquacious Mr. Enoch on the defensive, clarifying the facts behind allegations that he left the San Juan Island school district in financial disarray "

Video show Mr Enoch answering the question regarding the May 2004 SAO audit (released after he left) when it was asked. Rather than sound defensive, he sounded to me as someone who can, with confidence, rebut scuttlebutt slime like that published by ST and Crosscut. What he described sounds very similar to what I've heard at SPS audit and finance committee meetings for some time now; mediocre, lackadaisical and/or unqualified money managers unable to answer financial questions directly. Hopefully in our case that is now changing.

Rosenthal states Husk was light on specifics (but in my mind heavy with the jargon). Entry plan this and skill set that and parent outreach strategy whatever. Funny, because her hometown newspaper has reported for sometime now that she does no better than Goodloe Johnson on that last point.

I'm not sure many would agree that Husk's lay off of over 400 FTEs, and push for further concessions are "pro-teacher". Or did you mistake her edu-babble as that? Now, I would take Enoch's move to re-open contract negotiations to GIVE BACK concessions to teachers who took furloughs and deferred raises, and his investment in keeping small class sizes, as pro-teacher and pro-student.

Anyway, it's always funny to look to see Crosscut's peculiar take on things.

Barney

Posted Thu, Apr 26, 5:12 p.m. Inappropriate

Enoch's money manager Terry Coulter was canned shortly after the audit results were released. Thought I'd share this comment by an actual teacher who recognizes someone who is pro-teacher better than you or me.

"I was a teacher in the San Juan Island school District during Mr. Enoch’s tenure as first a high school principal and later the district superintendent. I taught for 29 years in the SJED and was a high school science teacher (physics, chemistry, AP Physics, Physics, and geology) and also the Education Association president and contract negotiator. During that time I served under 13 principals and 7 superintendents. In both categories, Mr. Enoch was the best.

As a principal, he always backed his staff, never chewed them out in front of parents or students. If he didn’t agree with what you did, you were told in private and if it was important, you were told to change your ways. I found him fair and professional. You could disagree and it was never personal. As the union rep who usually went into the administrators office with a complaint to discuss I appreciated his attitude. Many other administrators seemed to prefer the “shoot the messenger” approach.

After only a year as principal, Mr. Enoch applied for the superintendent position when it became open. He was hired and this was his first time at the helm of a district. The business manager was Terry Coulter who curried a reputation as an innovative and forward-looking manager and for some years, he was able to deliver on his promises. I dealt with Mr. Coulter in negotiations and have never worked with a more opaque or confusing individual on finances. Ask for an explanation on any funding issue and 30 minutes later, I would leave his office with me head spinning. Understand that state financing is Byzantine at best and add an explanation not meant to clarify and you can see what we were up against.

Mr. Enoch’s last year in the district, the board decided to purchase land and build an office against Mr. Enoch’s advice. That spring, Mr. Enoch was recruited by an Eastern WA school district and he accepted the job. The next year, enrollment dropped and because of Mr. Coulter’s shell game, there were inadequate reserves. Many schools are tripped by this as they all want to satisfy needs and no one ever can predict the next year accurately enough when budgets are thin. Mr. Enoch didn’t see this coming. Maybe an experienced superintendent with years dealing with Washington state’s complex funding might have seen this but given Mr. Coulters unwillingness or in ability to offer clear explanations, I doubt it.

In closing, I would like to say that I found Steve Enoch to be a straight shooter who not only backed his teachers but who also asked that they improve. He was willing to give them both tools and support to do this. It was not just empty rhetoric. He will not be politically correct, he will not suffer fools and charlatans gently. Mr. Enoch will listen to all sides but he will let you know what he thinks. He will be fair. He will also ask that improvements be made and not accept “good enough” as an outcome. Looking at the past few years history in Seattle, I think that he is just what the district " Greg Hertel

Barney

Posted Thu, Apr 26, 5:15 p.m. Inappropriate

What a funny piece.
The journalists certainly did NOT agree that Husk is "just right".
The business community seems to like her from what I've heard.
Those who disliked Goodloe-Johnson seem to abhor her.
In short, opinion with Husk as with all 3 seem to be mixed.

The only thing I've heard that people seem to agree with is that the closed interview process put forward by DeBell as president of the board, as well as the closed media process put forward by district staff, were extremely unfortunate, angering both citizens and the press.

Not a good start for any new superintendent.

Posted Thu, Apr 26, 5:16 p.m. Inappropriate

I don't expect Crosscut readers would take my word for it. See for yourself on the WS blog

http://westseattleblog.com/2012/04/seattle-public-schools-superintendent-finalists-visit-steven-enoch

Barney

Posted Thu, Apr 26, 5:26 p.m. Inappropriate

I'm not at all surprised by the bias written in Crosscut. I am hoping the article of this piece had not seen this document prior to publishing her article.:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/91249825/Husk-record-at-Salem-Keizer-district

While some prefer higher levels of governances, failing to report problems and outcome to the board under the guise of "privacy" is deeply concerning and dangerous.

I also encourage all to look at Salem-Kaier's School Report. Please pay specific attention to scores related to special needs children, ELL and disadvantaged children- it is deeply concerning. I'm not seeing much in this candidate

Watching

Posted Thu, Apr 26, 5:30 p.m. Inappropriate

Barney is correct. Seattle Public Schools often moves dollars between general fund and capital budgets. I'm not seeing anything unusual here.

Mr. Enoch explained the financial woes..a building was bought against his advice. Furthermore, after Mr. Enoch left...he was able to build up an $80M reserve to see his most recent district through difficult times. Mr. Enoch's later financial management is inconsistent with accusations being thrown at him.

Watching

Posted Thu, Apr 26, 5:38 p.m. Inappropriate

Oops. I meant to say: I hope the author of this article hadn't read the below document prior to publishing this article.

Watching

Posted Fri, Apr 27, 1:56 p.m. Inappropriate

Having kept close tabs on this and watching the videos, I too agree that you are way off base. Enoch and Banda seems like good fits with Enoch getting more points for experience. Husk - no way, no how. She reminded me of Goodloe-Johnson. We have been there done that and don't want a repeat. I too am a SPS parent and I hope the board listens to the parents. We are their customers after all, not Bill Gates.

Rhonwyn

Posted Sun, Apr 29, 2:29 p.m. Inappropriate

Note that Mr. Enoch has just announced the withdrawal of his candidacy, saying that he feels the district needs a younger person at the helm.

Posted Sun, Apr 29, 9:05 p.m. Inappropriate

This is somewhat off subject, but the article in the ST today got me to thinking about why the sudden overcrowding of Seattle's public schools. The speculation that came to me is that the number of children has not substantially changed, what has really changed in the quickened pace of the return to true neighborhood schools, making it them more attractive for both social and economic reasons. Is there any way of getting a handle on this?

afreeman

Posted Mon, Apr 30, 7:13 a.m. Inappropriate

@afreeman,

There are three explanations given for the increase in enrollment at Seattle Public Schools. All are probably contributing factors. Let's remember that the overwhelming majority of the enrollment increase has been north of downtown in Seattle's more affluent neighborhoods.

1. The switch to guaranteed assignment to a specific neighborhood school.

2. There was a strong reduction in the "out-migration" of families as a result of the mortgage lending crisis - you can't buy a home in the burbs if you can't get a mortgage.

3. There can be no doubt that the public perception of Seattle's public schools has improved.

Look where the enrollment growth has come. It has been primarily in the most affluent neighborhoods around the higher performing schools.

coolpapa

Posted Mon, Apr 30, 8:32 a.m. Inappropriate

To note from Coolpapa's comments, this information came via a demographer consultant that the district hired to get a handle on what was happening with its growth when their own in-house demographer couldn't.

westello

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