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    Dear Mayor: An eyewitness critique of Pioneer Square's homeless beating

    Steve Banfield watched as two Seattle firefighters beat a pair of homeless men sleeping in Pioneer Square. His correspondence with Mayor Ed Murray on the subject.

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    A homeless man was beaten and no police cars arrived. When one of the attackers was stabbed, four police cruisers, two ambulances, a fire truck and several fire department supervisor cars all arrived within minutes. After all the damage is done, is this your definition of appropriate response?


    Mr. Mayor, there will be police reports to read that will give a more complete view of events. I’m not going to speculate on the events immediately before the stabbing as I didn’t witness that fight. What I did see, both from the original altercation and the aftermath, convinces me that if your administration made active policing in Pioneer Square a priority, all of this could have been prevented.

    Anyone who attends a Sounders, Seahawks or Mariners game is comforted by the large police presence. Officers are there directing traffic, coordinating and controlling the “march to the match” and as people leave the stadiums are there to keep things moving along in a safe and orderly fashion. Then where do they go? Once the games are done and the CenturyLink parking lots empty Pioneer Square becomes ignored by law enforcement until there is blood in the street. 

    At the time of this incident there was a police cruiser parked at 1st and Washington. It was empty.

    If there had been even a minimal police presence, then don’t you agree that the likelihood of a vicious attack like this would have gone down? If the first attack had been deterred, then the odds of the second, more serious fight which led to the stabbing would have also been prevented. Maybe the first attack would have happened even in view of the police, but they could have arrested the attackers. A man in handcuffs can’t start a new fight, nor get stabbed in response.

    Without police in Pioneer Square to greet the highly intoxicated and volatile visitors who pour out of the bars, you are inviting violence.

    I’m also not talking about a couple of mounted officers riding through, or four or five bicycle officers gathered on one corner. To be effective, the officers need to be walking throughout the park. Instead of standing together talking to each other, officers should be talking to citizens and making themselves visible. Engagement, not intimidation. They have to actually engage the community to provide a presence that will deter most violence.

    Pioneer Square is a critical part of the downtown renaissance that is happening in Seattle. We can dig tunnels and knock down highways, build living space and open restaurants, but unless you make a commitment to keep Pioneer Square safe all the 12th Man signs in the world won’t matter.

    Pioneer Square is the southern anchor of Seattle’s downtown, yet the policies of the Murray administration continue to give this critical neighborhood short shrift in public safety and law enforcement investment. Pioneer Square is a historic district, but what I saw yesterday makes me wonder if the Murray Administration has just written us off to the historic dangerous and violent reputation of the area.

    When I tell people in other parts of King County that I live in Pioneer Square, their reaction is telling. Too often they think of the area as the equivalent of a third world conflict zone, a view fed by media reports that focus on violent confrontations such as yesterday’s. How long before people from other parts of the area think of coming to Pioneer Square is something they have to do in order to attend an event instead of something they want to do? Are we that willing to throw away all the positive emotion that came to PSQ and SODO through the Seahawks parade and celebration?

    If you want Pioneer Square to be the southern parallel to the tech industry explosion of jobs, residences and businesses in South Lake Union then you, Mr. Mayor, must make an investment to keep everyone in Pioneer Square safe. Business can’t thrive in an area where you aren’t willing to make a commitment to safety.

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    Posted Mon, Mar 24, 4:22 a.m. Inappropriate

    In addition to more Police in Pioneer Square, perhaps an examination of the policy that allows the homeless the pass out/sleep/camp on the streets is in order as well.

    There is no excuse for the aggressive behavior of the individuals involved here. I assume that since these are fire fighters that Pete Holmes will make sure that there will be no favoritism in the prosecution of their crimes.

    Unfortunately for Murray, the pattern of talking about action and not actually taking any action is a long standing tradition in Seattle.


    Posted Mon, Mar 24, 8:22 a.m. Inappropriate

    Thank you Mr. Banfield for reaching out to city officials with your first-hand account and emphasizing how imperative it is to provide better police presence in the area, especially when large, inebriated crowds are present.

    I especially enjoyed hearing how a seemingly able-bodied firefighter who is on disability calls others “moochers” and “living off my tax dollars.”


    Posted Mon, Mar 24, 8:23 a.m. Inappropriate

    I'm sorry, but I cannot find any sentence in the text of this letter stating that these attackers were firefighters. It's hard to imagine the headline and Ed Murray's response being so off the mark, but it sounds like these were just three angry folks walking by the Firefighters' Memorial. Or is the Firehouse Bar known for serving SFD officers?


    Posted Mon, Mar 24, 12:07 p.m. Inappropriate

    Yes, this is sloppy journalism. Banfield's letter makes no attempt to identify the assailants, but obviously other sources have linked them to the Fire Department. Crosscut should have filled in the context that Banfield missed. Without it Murray's letter makes no sense. And if the assailants were indeed City firefighters, the cure obviously includes more than just more cops in Pioneer Square.


    Posted Mon, Mar 24, 1:24 p.m. Inappropriate

    "sloppy journalism" = Crosscut's normal standards.


    Posted Mon, Mar 24, 5:36 p.m. Inappropriate

    Other news accounts identified the men as off duty firefighters, and the Fire Chief apologized stating that this type of behavior is not condoned in any way by the Seattle Fire Department. The lovely bride is employed at Amazon, also per other news accounts.

    Posted Mon, Mar 24, 8:23 a.m. Inappropriate

    @Cameron..."In addition to more Police in Pioneer Square, perhaps an examination of the policy that allows the homeless the pass out/sleep/camp on the streets is in order as well."

    What part of 'homeless' don't you grasp? They are sleeping on the street because they have no home. There are few, if any, shelter beds available, because no one wants to pay taxes. Jobs are non-existent. You know the government justed enables these folks by giving them beds and food, right? Why pay taxes?


    Posted Mon, Mar 24, 12:05 p.m. Inappropriate

    "They are sleeping on the street because they have no home"

    Or because they chose to drink and do drugs.


    Posted Mon, Mar 24, 5:43 p.m. Inappropriate

    Or because they have mental health issues.

    No matter why the homeless sleep on the street is no excuse for middle class middle aged cretins to beat on them.

    Posted Mon, Mar 24, 8:33 a.m. Inappropriate

    I currently work in Pioneer Square, and I have watched the fortunes of this valuable historic neighborhood ebb and flow since 1967. I would only add that in order to make a real difference, a police presence (preferably "beat cops") is required 24/7, not just after sporting events.


    Posted Mon, Mar 24, 11:34 a.m. Inappropriate

    What I grasp, elbowman is that the City of Seattle tolerates homeless folks sleeping, passing out and peeing and taking dumps in Pioneer Square and public parks throughout the City. I also grasp that the tax dollars we are paying to address the issue is obviously being misallocated. How is the Ten Year Plan to end homelessness working out for you elbowman?


    Posted Mon, Mar 24, 12:07 p.m. Inappropriate

    " Jobs are non-existent."

    No doubt you support raising the minimum wage to make hobos more employable?


    Posted Mon, Mar 24, 5:11 p.m. Inappropriate

    "Seattle firefighters beat Pioneer Square's homeless"

    No sir, you saw one off duty fireman beat one homeless. The only reason this is news is because for the vast majority of cases of attacks on the homeless it's other homeless or drug dealers.


    Posted Mon, Mar 24, 5:33 p.m. Inappropriate

    There were 2 firefighters, and one brought his wife, a well employed gal who work/ed at Amazon, to help kick the homeless man.

    Posted Fri, Jun 13, 2:22 p.m. Inappropriate

    Two off-duty city employees and a girlfriend.


    Posted Tue, Mar 25, 3:15 p.m. Inappropriate

    After many decades of being a visitor to Pioneer Square to bar hop or visit galleries, I stopped ever going to that area after dark or in the hours after any sporting event about 10 years ago. It is not, and never was, the homeless folks I am afraid of. It's the drunks and partiers occupying the place.

    Posted Tue, Mar 25, 11:39 p.m. Inappropriate

    And about 15 years ago, the drunks started carrying guns, and using them in the streets after they got pushed out of the bars. The homeless and panhandlers were always scary, but never seemed as violent as the club drunk gangsters who took over.

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