Many Seattleites regretted that they didn't buy Microsoft stock back in the '80s and thus let the great prosperity train pass them by. Buying stock in Bill Gates was a slam dunk, and as the company matured, many have comes to regard it as a kind of blue chip investment. Who, after all, would ever want to bet against Bill Gates?
Doomsayers have predicted wreckage for the company for years, and we're seeing hints of mortality as Gates is gone and Redmond goes through its first major layoffs and new cutbacks. But it turns out the picture of what's going on may be even worse for investors.
Jeff Reifman, a former Microsoftie turned tech entrepreneur and activist, always has an interesting take on his former company. He did a series of eye-opening, in-depth pieces for Seattle Weekly about Microsoft's impact on the community, from tax dodges to the moral complexities of becoming a Microsoft millionaire. As a techie with business sense and a social conscience, he always has an interesting perspective. And as someone who became a Microsoft millionaire himself, he has a natural interest in the company's stock.
Reifman says Microsoft has been a lousy investment over the last decade, with a huge disconnect between profits and shareholder returns. According to his analysis:
Over the past ten years, Microsoft has posted revenue over $360 billion and profits over $107 billion. But, if you purchased Microsoft stock ten years ago on February 26, 1999 at the price of $31.18 per share, at its current price of $16.96 (and adjusting for $5.09 in dividends), your investment would have lost 29.3% or 2.9% annually vs. Microsoft's $10.7 billion in average annualized profit.
We often expect long term investors to do well over time, but in this case — despite some of the greatest corporate profits ever — Microsoft's long-term shareholder returns have been negative. This may be one of the most astounding examples of a disconnect between long term corporate profit and shareholder returns.
And the Gods help you if you bought Microsoft at its peak at the end of 1999. You'd be "down 62.2% on your ten year investment."
It's not just the current stock market dive that's hurt the numbers. Reifman says selling a year ago have only produced very tepid gains. He's not sure why the disparity between profits and values is so pronounced. Was Microsoft stock over-valued a decade ago? Do investors undervalue steady profits? Did Microsoft over-promise on a new generations of products? Reifman is curious and would love to hear your explanations and theories.
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Comments:
Posted Thu, Feb 26, 1:02 p.m. Inappropriate
The article is about the past, and the headline suggests it's about the future.
The funny thing is if the stock was priced higher right now, a lot of people would say "ooh, high-performing, I'll buy some." They look for bargains on toothpaste but they prefer to buy stock only when the price has gone up.
If the price seems low compared to what the company is worth, that's a much better bet. Not that I have any idea what it's worth.
Posted Fri, Feb 27, 12:21 a.m. Inappropriate
between 87 and 96 microslop was the ONLY game in town, and the concept of windows and point and click was unburdened with all the crap that the company would come to bloat their OS with.
the emergence of open OSs ( Linux ) the dominance of Unix for the really REAL big businesses and the tired scheme of making Windows users pay for "upgrades" that only introduced new headaches AND morphed Windows into the nightmare that Xerox never intended for a truly user friendly windows based system now are giving MS stockholders what they deserve.
the company now is too stupid to strip all the garbage out of the bloated pig and then take the time to FIX all the things that its been trying to get customers to help fix AND THEN release Windows XP Lite as the first worthy thing they ( would ) have put out. Something WORTH paying money for.
" Oh, but I've just got to learn all about Power Point ! " exclaimed the MBA candidate to be ...
Posted Fri, Feb 27, 12:25 a.m. Inappropriate
Windows Vista -- you must be joking, right ?!?!
Posted Fri, Feb 27, 12:48 a.m. Inappropriate
a 'window' based 'point and click' operating system :
let see, i'm a typical business-sales-marketing gadfly type, don't bother me with details, i just want to move this little mouse thing ( pointer ) on the screen over the cute outline of a little printer to get a copy of my 2 page memo. Then, I can really show the head of the union sloths a thing or two in the 3 PM meeting.
oh, is my lipstick on too thick ?
but wait, you mean your going to burden my cute OS with things like networking, file sharing, something called the internet and the ability to match the color of my 'desktop' to my skirt ? ! Don't forget the pictures of the hubby and kids ! Oh, and I need to understand 31 languages and several different keyboard schemes ! And can you make it so cute little windows will pop up with messages that have little or no linking to what my computer is "doing" at this instant ?
I thought Windows was supposed to make using the computer easy for even a dummie ! ( hmm, spell check must be turned off ... now how does Windows Help, help me fix that ??? )
Posted Fri, Feb 27, 12:55 a.m. Inappropriate
or, if your a techie :
while ( 1 )
{
if (pay = thru_nose) then MS upgrade;
suffer_new_headaches;
}
Posted Fri, Feb 27, 1:02 a.m. Inappropriate
questions ? Talk with a microslop support person located somewhere in bangladesh, who doesn't speak english that well and only wants to further compound your problem to increase his 'busy' factor to a sweat shop boss.
Posted Fri, Feb 27, 10:50 a.m. Inappropriate
According the WSJ, on 2/26/99 msft was at a split-adjusted $37.53, not $31.18. So your ten-year results would be even worse than Reifman calculates.
Was the stock overvalued on 2/26/99? You betcha. In the company's years of most rapid growth, well before '99, the stock sported a p/e around 28, give or take a few points. On 2/26/99 msft's p/e was around 60, the price of the stock benefiting from the dotcom bubble.
Is the stock now undervalued? Well, the S&P; 500's historical average is around 17. Msft's current p/e is about 9. In addition, msft will pay you about 3% a year. (Try getting that in a one-year CD from your local bank.) Draw your own conclusions.
Posted Mon, Mar 2, 11:32 a.m. Inappropriate
So, what we're saying in this article is that a tech stock, towards the end of a tech bubble, was somewhat overpriced. Somehow, this isn't exactly a shock.
Posted Mon, Mar 2, 11:32 a.m. Inappropriate
So, what we're saying in this article is that a tech stock, towards the end of a tech bubble, was somewhat overpriced. Somehow, this isn't exactly a shock.
Posted Mon, May 9, 6:08 p.m. Inappropriate
this article shows a lack of understanding of how the stock market works. 80% of shares follow the market. The nasdaq is down 50% over 10 years, so microsoft has outperformed the index