Is God violent?
Once while I was phone-banking, a woman I’d called interrupted my briefing on a political issue involving human services with a question. “Do you know what ‘Thy kingdom come’ means?” she asked. “Um, I think so,” I replied. “Well,” she said, “that’s why I don’t bother voting. I only have time for church stuff. When the Rapture comes, I don’t want to be left behind — you know, slaughtered.”
In the Last Days she didn’t want to elect anybody. She wanted, you know, to be Elect. She wanted to be among the few swept up to Heaven where, as in an old fresco or in the Lahaye/Jenkins Left Behind series, the virtuous smile down on infidels being hacked to gruesome smithereens back here on earth.
In a lecture series on the life of Paul a couple of weeks ago at University Congregational United Church of Christ, author and theologian John Dominic Crossan presented a rather different view of heavenly justice. Some Christians, he said, would like to argue that the Old Testament God is the “bad cop” and the N.T. God the “good cop.” But a Bible concluding in "Revelation," which Crossan called “the most relentlessly violent book in the canonical literature of all the world’s religions,” certainly suggests that vengeance, retribution, and punishment are part of God’s “job description.”
How do we figure out the character of God? It seems “a mix,” said Crossan, “a cocktail.”
Crossan began answering his question by pointing out that the Bible first mentions “sin” not in the Eden story but in the story of Cain the murderer. And God, by not punishing Cain with a horrible death, set the primary example of avoiding the primal sin of “escalatory violence.”
Soon Crossan’s lecture turned to the Gospels. God’s son isn’t a blend of violence and nonviolence, he said, but unmixed nonviolence and love, and the son reflects the nature of the father. When the son says, “My kingdom is not of this world,” he doesn’t mean that Heaven is a future Paradise with Papa, at last accessible in the Last Days. “My kingdom” means a world here and now that doesn’t play by Caesar’s rules, where people don’t live for wealth, power, and tit-for-tat. The Christian “norm,” said Crossan, is the “nonviolent revolutionary” who rode to Jerusalem not on a martial charger but on a female donkey, in mockery of Rome-style war and conquest. God’s nature is reflected in the son who loved and gave to everyone, including the poor, sick, and oppressed, showing that the justice of “Thy kingdom come” is “not retributive justice, but distributive justice.”
Crossan might have replied to the question asked by the woman on my call list, “Yes, I know the meaning of ‘Thy kingdom come.’ It means ‘Let’s make sure everyone on earth gets a fair share.’” In other words, let’s build a solid, effective system of human services, plus go out there and give in person, generously, to the people we meet. He’d have given the woman good reason not to waste time fearing retribution from a violent God, and maybe to vote my way on the issue I called her about.
You can watch a video of the sermon Crossan gave at UCUCC the day after his series ended, “Walking the Way of Nonviolence: Is the God of the Christian Bible Violent?", which picks up some of his lecture themes. This charming, funny talker has surely kissed the blarney stone.










Comments:
Posted Tue, Nov 3, 10:06 a.m. inappropriate
That's an interesting answer for sure. I wonder how the woman you called would have responded.
I've read the first half of the Left Behind series. While those books are good fiction, I have a hard time understanding the underlying worldview. It is so much at odds with what is in the Bible, not to mention with reason. I think that when one reads all of the Bible, one finds that the understanding of God is complex and ambiguous. In other words, the people of the ancient Middle East had as much trouble figuring it out as we do.
I would also make the observation that there is exactly one violent act attributed to Jesus in the New Testament: his overturning of the money changers' tables at the temple. There's something to chew on in light of today's economic climate.
Posted Tue, Nov 3, 11:11 a.m. inappropriate
Jesus came back in 1993. You didn't know that? Yeah, 'both' of the then living true believers were caught up to meet him in the air. There are a lot of self-proclaimed christians who think they're sheep, but act like goats.
Posted Tue, Nov 3, 12:46 p.m. inappropriate
@Wells - wellsaid
@pepper - I would argue Jesus' behavior in the temple was explosive, but not violent the way I understand the word. "Violent" simply means "violating". I think the story makes clear that the moneychangers and salesmen were violating God's house. Jesus was not violating anyone, and in fact was doing the vendors a solid by setting them straight, as they obviously needed schoolin'. I think of the event less as a case of Jesus being violent and more like when cold and warm air currents come together along a weather front. It was [meta]physics. Sump'm had to give...
I love this article and this view of God. I'll be checking out more of Crossan. Thanks so much, Judy.
Posted Tue, Nov 3, 2:53 p.m. inappropriate
This conversation is well and good except for the fact that, according to the Christian tradition, it was God himself who "poured out His wrath" upon Jesus. It doesn't get one very far saying that Jesus was a swell godman/teacher here to teach us a sort-of benevolent grandfatherly cheer and then ignoring the fact that he suffered the horrendous violence of the cross. . .under God's authority.
Is God Violent? God is certainly violent. I don't know how a person can read either the old or new testaments and come away with a different conclusion. The question to be asked should be "what is the nature of his violence?" Is it the type of violence one displays when he is perpetrating a crime? or is it closer to the type of violence one displays when his family is being threatened?