Podcast | How Doug Baldwin Jr. and Macklemore use their fame to make social change
The Super Bowl champion and the Grammy-winning rapper talk with activist DeRay Mckesson about working within a flawed system and working to fix it.
Some activists need to use loudspeakers, but others are fortunate enough to already have the world’s attention. Colin Kaepernick, for example, showed how a single act — and the commitment to repeat it — can both inspire and agitate on a national scale. But how does one turn fame into societal change? In this episode of the Crosscut Talks podcast, prominent social justice activist and author DeRay Mckesson leads a conversation with hip-hop artist Macklemore and former Seahawks wide receiver Doug Baldwin Jr. about how the two socially active figures choose a cause and make positive change. Note: This episode contains adult language. A bleeped version is available below.
This conversation was recorded on May 4, 2019 at Seattle University as part of the Crosscut Festival.